Re: Lessons from a Austin Cohousing that disbanded | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Kathryn McCamant (kmccamant![]() |
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Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 11:31:29 -0700 (PDT) |
I think it is important to separate the issues raised from the overwhelming difficulties of trying to build any real estate projects during the last 5 years during the housing bust and Great Recession. Existing communities felt it in some drop in the sales prices and the difficulty of selling any homes during the most difficult years of 2008-2010, but the projects that were very much in process got hammered, as did all types of real estate development during those years. We were the lucky ones with Wolf Creek Lodge (Grass Valley, CA) ....hard to get people to understand what a success it was to get the project built. We had a construction loan lined up, the project out to bid and ready to go the summer of 2008 when everything came to a screeching halt! What saved the project was that the community members didn't bolt...they hung in there and even came up with more money to hold the property (which we had already bought and had a substantial loan on). It took two years to put the financing back together, but eventually we did and eventually we got it built. As I tell people, after all of that...the project no longer made financial sense and was a money loser for us, but the only thing worse than not making anything on a project you worked on for years, is not making money and not seeing it built. Wolf Creek Lodge got built, and is a great community now for decades to come because we had a very committed group of members with a lot of money on the line and people hung in there. I think it is one of the only surviving housing projects (not just cohousing--but all types of housing) that started before the recession and actually got built. Had it not been cohousing, with a strong group of committed buyers in place, the project would have gone back to the bank like all the real estate projects in process did. Now, communities are working in a very different housing market which is moving in the up direction and will make current projects much easier, although I think every cohousing project feels like it took everything they had to get it done. But I continue to be surprized by the number of people who think they can do a multi-million real estate deal with out any experience or paying professionals with that experience. Real estates deals are risky and there is a reason seasoned real estate developers are conservative. Katie -- Kathryn McCamant, President, Architect CoHousing Partners, LLC 241 Commercial Street Nevada City, CA 95959 T.530.478.1970 C.916.798.4755 www.cohousingpartners.com On 6/5/14 9:42 AM, "Matt Lawrence" <matt [at] technoronin.com> wrote: > >On Thu, 5 Jun 2014, Fred H Olson wrote: > >> >> A lot more people would like to live in cohousing than have >> managed to do so. Many projects to build cohousing do not succeed >> after varying amounts of progress. It esiser to talk about >> success so analyses of those that failed are less common but >> there are lessons to be learned from them. >> >> Today I happened onto one (from about 2011?) : >> >>> We're sorry to announce that Austin Cohousing has disbanded, >>> and our Kaleidoscope Village project is not going to happen. >> >> For the rest of this 2 page file see: >> http://www.austincohousing.org/ >> >> Note that this page may be from one person's point of view, I don't >>know. > >There were a number of other issues that also contributed to the failure. >This project is also why I finally gave up on Cohousing after researching >it for over 15 years. > >-- Matt >It's not what I know that counts. >It's what I can remember in time to use. >_________________________________________________________________ >Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: >http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ > >
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Re: Lessons from a Austin Cohousing that disbanded R Philip Dowds, June 5 2014
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Re: Lessons from a Austin Cohousing that disbanded Charles Nuckolls, June 9 2014
- Re: Lessons from a Austin Cohousing that disbanded Sharon Villines, June 10 2014
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Re: Lessons from a Austin Cohousing that disbanded Charles Nuckolls, June 9 2014
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Re: Lessons from a Austin Cohousing that disbanded Matt Lawrence, June 5 2014
- Re: Lessons from a Austin Cohousing that disbanded Kathryn McCamant, June 5 2014
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Re: Lessons from a Austin Cohousing that disbanded R Philip Dowds, June 5 2014
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Re: Lessons from a Austin Cohousing that disbanded Catya Belfer, June 5 2014
- Re: Lessons from a Austin Cohousing that disbanded Sharon Villines, June 5 2014
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