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From: Martha Wagner (wordbizpdx![]() |
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 18:03:31 -0800 (PST) |
Thank you for your post, Christine. I hope it draws some good responses. I would like to hear how other communities manage the unapproved landscape “improvements” you refer to. I would also like to hear more about how your community and others establish listserv guidelines and find someone willing to take on an enforcement role for that. Martha Wagner Columbia Ecovillage Portland, OR On Nov 6, 2015, at 3:16 AM, cohousing-l-request [at] cohousing.org wrote: Send Cohousing-L mailing list submissions to cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.cohousing.org/mailman/listinfo/cohousing-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cohousing-l-request [at] cohousing.org You can reach the person managing the list at cohousing-l-owner [at] cohousing.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Cohousing-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Enforcement of co-housing rules/policies within your community (Christine Johnson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 18:29:48 -0700 From: Christine Johnson <christine-johnson [at] cox.net> To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Enforcement of co-housing rules/policies within your community Message-ID: <8B9C5E69-48B2-4BC9-B144-DB2C0C47C79D [at] cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I so appreciate the points made so far about the difficulties that we face in getting folks to comply with agreements. Outside of contracting for professional management, putting in place consequences that do not involve individuals who live in the community taking a role appears to me, to be impossible. I am quite happy and privileged to live where I live, enjoy and care for the people I live with, and it?s just not worth the bad feelings to do more than simply state how it is when the topic comes around. If there was a collective effort here to march into the difficult conversations that it would involve, I?d be a part of that, as would others, I?m sure. But others who too, are troubled by our failure to effect compliance with our agreements are probably like me - we choose to tolerate, ignore or give in to folks who do not comply. On the positive side, we have two successful practices that work for us: 1) When there have been individuals who are either not complying with an agreement and another objects or two people/households are in conflict with each other, formal mediation has been used. Accepting a request, if asked, that one participate in a mediation, is one of our agreements. Over 11 years, the issues that have gone to mediation were the few that reached a point of being intolerable to at least one person. It has to date, just been individuals, not the community, who have requested and used mediation. I?ve been told that it has not always brought folks to totally happy ending but I think it?s fair to say that mediation helped to prevent those relationships from deteriorating into being totally antagonistic. 2) We have a listserv moderator who has the power to effect consequences if individuals ignore our guidelines for listserv postings. Through his consistent reminders to everyone and, on occasion, disallowing an individual?s access for a short period, we enjoy a pretty civil and friendly listserv. On the negative side, we have over 11 years tolerated, ignored or resigned ourselves to: numerous unapproved ?improvements? to property and landscape plantings (in large part because of our failure to put in place detailed guidelines, a written design review approval process); individuals using common spaces for private storage and in one instance, continuous personal use; the presence of feral cats that a resident feeds, with the cats killing birds and spraying and pooping on outdoor furnishings I would really appreciate hearing any input on how your community works through these sorts of difficulties (given the 1st one obviously includes having in place detailed design guidelines with a written review process). I worked as a community association manager for a number of years and was the ?enforcer? of the rules, regulations and design guidelines, acting on the authority of the Boards of Directors. Enforcement was the most unpleasant part of my day to day work. I made very good money as the hired ?cop?. You couldn?t pay me enough though, to do this job in my own community. Christine Johnson Stone Curves Cohousing Tucson, AZ **************************************** Carl Manz & Christine Johnson 4145 N. Stone Ave., #102 Tucson, AZ 85705-8807 carl-manz [at] cox.net christine-johnson [at] cox.net 520-207-8718 **************************************** ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _________________________________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ ------------------------------ End of Cohousing-L Digest, Vol 142, Issue 5 *******************************************
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Re: enforcement of cohousing rules and community listserv guidelines/moderator Martha Wagner, November 6 2015
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Re: enforcement of cohousing rules and community listserv guidelines/moderator Timothy Miller, November 6 2015
- Re: enforcement of cohousing rules and community listserv guidelines/moderator Chris Gallagher, November 7 2015
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Re: enforcement of cohousing rules and community listserv guidelines/moderator Malcom Eva, November 7 2015
- Re: enforcement of cohousing rules and community listserv guidelines/moderator R Philip Dowds, November 7 2015
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Re: enforcement of cohousing rules and community listserv guidelines/moderator Timothy Miller, November 6 2015
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