Re: Describing Diversity | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Mark Thompson (markithompson![]() |
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 14:24:46 -0700 (PDT) |
Carol, I’m so sorry you have had such a painful experience with
co-housing. I’m glad that you have chosen to stay in touch with the
co-housing community as a whole through this email list. By listening
to you we all have much to gain. You have wisdom, painfully gained,
from your experience with the co-housing group to which you once
belonged. Unfortunately I am not surprised by your experience. What
does stand out, though, is that you were brave enough to take the chance
the first time.
As a White man in the U.S. it is not possible for me to walk in the
shoes of a Black person. To understand the issues and why action needs
to be taken we need to listen to the people of color. Carol and Crystal
have identified themselves, so it is their voices that I find myself
listening to to determine how I will act.
The ambiguity of the question which lead to the formation of this
discussion, “How does your community describe diversity in your
community”, points to the problem. Not being clear by what is meant by
diversity is privilege that the White majority has.
Why does it matter how your community answers this question? It
matters, because we don't want anyone to join a community where several
of the other members are terrified of them without any rational basis.
Why be specific about race, especially Black and Native American? I'm
not going into detail about Native Americans, though. Consider the
following.
In the U.S there are several aspects of a person that are considered
default. Among these are White and Protestant. According to the 2010
US Census 12% of the citizenry identify as Black, 72% as White. That
means that about 3 out of every 4 people in the US are White, six times
as many as are Black. That is an overwhelming majority. Imagine if
three quarters of the populace were male. Women would constantly be
reminded of this disparity, while men would only need notice at their
convenience. Being Black in the US is much more oppressive then the
mere population distribution suggests.
My skin color, my speech, my friends, and my assumption of unearned
privileges all mark me as White. By being White, the default race, I
almost never need to consider my race or how others will respond to
their perception of my race. By my reckoning my race has been a
significant issue in my life about once a decade. Being non-White means
being constantly aware of race. You are noticed and judged by skin
color everywhere you go. Even when among people who look like you it is
clear that you are in an enclave of relative safety by avoiding Whites.
Being Black means being assumed to be uneducated, ignorant, unskilled,
and likely to be a criminal among other negative attributes, unless
proven otherwise. It also means you are more likely to be stopped by
police, fined, arrested for minor offenses, prosecuted for perceived
offenses, and found guilty for them. By the most conservative estimates
it also means you are three times more likely to be killed when
encountering the police than those who are White.
Those are shoes I cannot walk in no matter how hard I might try. That
doesn't mean I won't or shouldn't try.
Mark Thompson Sharingwood in rural Western WashingtonNote that I have pasted in Carol's 12:00 posting, but it wasn't part of what Tiffany was responding to.
mt On 9/14/2016 12:09 PM, Tiffany Lee Brown wrote: >> Thank you for this concise and frank description. I'm white but am familiar with this dynamic. As a partially disabled person, I find both that most things are set up for the normally abled, sometimes to my exclusion... And that when my health issues are not so bad, I too immediately fall back into forgetting that folks with unusual disabilities may be intentionally or unintentionally excluded, to the point that they may give up trying to participate unless specifically asked and accommodated.
>> And it often seems like (cis) men are the first to say that gender doesn't or shouldn't matter, just like it takes us whites a while to figure out that racial equality isn't just a matter of us ignoring race altogether. Many of us raised in the 70s and 80s were taught to think that way, with good intentions... It just isn't realistic and doesn't acknowledge systemic bias and what we now call "privilege".
>> I know race and gender and relative abledness are not the same things, but sometimes privilege is enacted in similar ways across these realms...
> > > - Tiffany in Central Oregon > > Sent from the far shores of a distant land On 9/14/2016 12:00 PM, carol collier wrote:> I strongly agree with Crystal. My experience is you don't know where you stand if this is not stated. I made the mistake of joining a cohousing community where a number of the members were terrified of Black people. If you follow the news, you heard that 48% of Trump's followers think that Blacks are more violent than whites but so do 31% of Hillary's followers. I do know other Blacks who are fearful of joining cohousing communities because they fear they will be tolerated but not accepted. People of color do not get to live in this "colorblind" world that too many people believe exists post-Obama's election. I can tell you many a story about my fellow doctors (in a liberal city) who believe that Blacks are inherently violent and intellectually inferior to whites.
>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 3:45 AM, Crystal Farmer <crystalbyrdfarmer [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> "But what is ?color?. The distinctions between people in terms of color>> have nothing to do with white or non-white. Does anyone think of themselves
>> or their neighbors as non-white? Are any of us are white?" >>>> I find that people who are in the majority race-wise have the privilege of
>> ignoring their race. They are able to look at other markers of diversity >> when it comes to housing or community. It's simply not the case for >> non-white people. When I apply for a job, talk to a realtor, or even go>> shopping, my race matters. When our cohousing group talks about diversity,
>> I want them to be clear that they welcome diverse people. And that means>> saying, "we have non-white and gay people." It matters to me, and I think
>> other people of color would agree. It needs to be said out loud. >> >> Crystal Farmer >> Charlotte Cohousing Community
- Re: Describing Diversity, (continued)
- Re: Describing Diversity Tom Smyth, September 15 2016
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Re: Describing Diversity Crystal Farmer, September 14 2016
- Re: Describing Diversity carol collier, September 14 2016
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Re: Describing Diversity Tiffany Lee Brown, September 14 2016
- Re: Describing Diversity Mark Thompson, September 14 2016
- Re: Describing Diversity carol collier, September 15 2016
- Re: Describing Diversity Sharon Villines, September 18 2016
- Re: Describing Diversity carol collier, September 18 2016
- Re: Describing Diversity Sharon Villines, September 20 2016
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