Cohousing-L Mailing List: Dogs

[susanfries613 (susanfries613]

At PDX Commons, a very urban project in Portland, Oregon, we made sure to
have our Pet Policy in place quite early in the process of recruiting new
members, so that pet owners would know our agreements prior to joining.  
We limit each household to 2 furry pets, each no larger than 80 pounds.
Cats are allowed on our outside walkways, but not in other common areas.
Dogs must always be leashed when in common areas, and are excluded from most
indoor common areas, such as dining room, guest rooms, media room, etc.  We
have a common laundry, so one washer/one dryer are designated for pet
owners.  
We require all adult dogs to have passed a certified K-9 Good Citizen class.
This provision encourages pet owners to learn how to be responsible for
their pets' behavior and takes the responsibility of us having to say to
someone, "Your pet isn't behaving in a way that is comfortable with our
community." We do not exclude any particular breeds of dogs from being here,
but do have a way to exclude poorly behaved dogs. 
Our Pet Policy is part of our By-Laws, making it more difficult to modify
than if it were just an Agreement or Procedure.  
Incidentally, we also have a "dog poop digester" in a corner of the garden
where dog owners deposit poop, mixed with bark mulch into an in-ground
bottomless garbage can. About 3-4 times a year we scoop out the composted
material and use it to fertilize our ornamental plantings (never our
edibles), so keeping lots of plastic bags and pet waste out of the landfill.
YouTube has several videos about how to make a digester. 
We also installed an indoor utility sink for dog washing (and for washing
paint brushes, muddy boots, and other pretty dirty stuff) 
Susan   

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Multifamily conversion to Cohousing Community (Patrice
      Crotty) (Alan O'Hashi)
   2. Re: Cohousing-L Digest, Vol 213, Issue 14 (Ed Sutton)
   3. Retrofit cohousing [was: Re: Approaches for Affordability...
      (Fred H Olson)
   4. Dogs (Dean smith)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 13:46:16 +0000 (UTC)
From: Alan O'Hashi <adoecos [at] yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Multifamily conversion to Cohousing Community
        (Patrice Crotty)
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PatriceIn my view, you are on the right track. Retrofit cohousing is the
configuration that is affordable to most people. As long as you have the
following ingredients in your cohousing secret sauce:

 
*Relationships

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-Neighbors commit to being part of a community for mutual benefit.

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-Cohousing cultivates a culture of sharing and caring.

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*Balancing Privacy and Community

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-Cohousing neighborhoods are designed for privacy as well as community.

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-Residents balance privacy and community by choosing their own level of
engagement.

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*Participation

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-Decision making is participatory and often based on consensus.

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-Self-management empowers residents, builds community, and saves money.

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*Shared Values

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-Cohousing communities support residents in actualizing shared values.

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-Cohousing communities typically adopt green approaches to living.

Thx
Alan O



 Hello.? Has anyone converted a 2 or 4 family residential bldg into a
cohousing community, in just the one building?? Or would that then be
considered co-living?
Thank you, Patrice

Alan O'Hashi?
Views from Behind the Lens
www.alanohashi.com
www.bouldercomedia.comCO: 303-910-5782 ....WY:?307-316-2113 .. 



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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 10:56:41 -0400
From: Ed Sutton <ed440 [at] me.com>
To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Cohousing-L Digest, Vol 213, Issue 14
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You would do well to craft a clear, unambiguous pet policy, including modes
of enforcement before beginning residence.
Don?t forget rabies vaccinations.
It probably should be in the bylaws.
Once people have moved in, and the cat is out of the bag?or out of the
house?or all three cats are out of the house?and the sweet dog is running
around off leash, concensus process will never come to clarity, the
community will be exhausted by the attempt. 
The cats and dogs will continue to roam and poop, and the cats will harvest
their natural organic meals (birds).

Ed Sutton
Eno Commons, Durham NC
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> From: Dean smith <deansmith4 [at] me.com>
> To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
> Subject: [C-L]_ Potentially dangerous dogs in cohousing
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> Hi all,
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> At Sunnyside village cohousing we?re discussing the admission of
potentially dangerous dogs into the community (we are a forming community
and no one, including pets, are in residence yet).  Specifically, Pit Bulls,
which are bred for destructive aggression. We?re wondering if other
communities have policies about dogs (viscous or otherwise). If your
community has eliminated dogs, we?d like to know the reasons for that, too.
> 
> Dean Smith
> www.sunnysidevillagecohousing.com 
> <http://www.sunnysidevillagecohousing.com/>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 10:07:46 -0500 (CDT)
From: Fred H Olson <fholson [at] cohousing.org>
To: Cohousing-L mailing list <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
Subject: [C-L]_ Retrofit cohousing [was: Re: Approaches for
        Affordability...
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Patrice Crotty wrote:
> Will there be anyone talking about retrofitting into an existing 
> neighborhood as an approach to affordability, since the people living 
> there already own or rent their dwellings?

> Thank you, Patrice

Patrice, I do not know the answer to your question but it implies something
or at least suggests something that I think needs clarification.

Usually the people who join a retrofit cohousing community buy or rent and
move to an existing house in the community so their housing cost reflects
the current market for the area rather than the past market for someone who
bought earlier. Depending on the level of inflation this can be substantial.

Cohousing appeals to a relatively small percent of the population at the
current time.  That is the items Alan cited are not a high priority for most
people currently. So the chances of many current occupants of houses
committing to be part of retrofit cohousing is unlikely.

Another aspect is that retrofit cohousing usually requires a long time since
usually expansion awaits houses coming up for sale or rent.
It also requires effective organizing to be ready to acquire houses when
they do become available.  Retrofit cohousing is a great idea but not
without its own challenges

Our block does not approach the level of communitas in cohousing but we have
great neighbors and outside of covid do some things together as a "block
club".  This summer we have met twice in my front yard.

Fred

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Fred H. Olson  Minneapolis,MN 55411  USA        (near north Mpls)
     Email:        fholson at cohousing.org      612-588-9532
My Link Pg: http://fholson.cohousing.org


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 08:12:44 -0700
From: Dean smith <deansmith4 [at] me.com>
To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
Subject: [C-L]_ Dogs
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Does any community require liability insurance for dog owners?  I assume
most residents would want insurance coverage against fire, etc., but pet
liability insurance is also available.

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