Re: Solar microgrid, anyone? | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Bryan Bowen (bryan![]() |
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 11:50:41 -0800 (PST) |
Hey David, I believe your thinking is spot on. Also, I fear it may be too great a cost to retrofit an ideal system into older existing residential buildings, but it's totally dependent on factors that vary quite a bit project by project, including the utility provide/regulatory environment. If we're repurposing an old building to become cohousing, it's usually pretty easy since we're upgrading everyone already. What we tell our forming communities: - If you're able, meter the project as a whole or building by building (instead of unit by unit) - Definitely need to understand utility billing and electrical codes to make this determination. - Plan for rooftop solar (rough in) as well as solar gardens on garage/carports/the CH, or ground mount to meet a NZE level of production. - Sub-meter individual units (e-gauge <https://store.egauge.net/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAubmPBhCyARIsAJWNpiPoEhrNnArd5pdQBrKwZQZV6ahgo1UHXRDU_jFgi0yVkELuL6vYH70aAnM9EALw_wcB> etc) for your own billing purposes if you'd like (same with domestic water, actually, it's more important) - Go all electric and plan for a future increased share of electric vehicles. - And while you're at it, plan for tons of bikes of different configurations to be parked in ways that really work for people. You want to encourage as much of a mode shift as possible. - Make a resiliency plan that includes consideration of what natural disasters etc you might have to survive and for how long, and size a battery back up to meet at least your critical loads. - Include all of this thinking in your decision making process, through one of the usual workshops or a stand alone series on sustainability/resilience. Having meters on each unit usually means you're locked in to providing PV on a unit by unit basis. Metering more collectively allows the highs and lows to balance out better and to keep system design less redundant and expensive. - b BRYAN BOWEN | PRINCIPAL | AIA | LEED AP *caddis collaborative* 1521 Easy Rider Lane #102 Boulder, CO 80304 303 443 3629 caddispc.com On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 12:30 PM David Mandel <dlmandel [at] gmail.com> wrote: > The great information about EV charging prompts me to ask this question > that I've been starting to explore for my community. > > More than a quarter of our households already have EVs and that is sure to > grow. We've installed a couple of shared L2 charging stations using > existing meters (one common, one at a household -- users reimburse for the > cost) and are looking into ways to install more. > > But this begs some other urgent questions. EV charging increases our use of > electricity, as does the gradual replacement of gas-powered appliances > (heating, stoves, dryers) with electric that is happening or contemplated > in individual homes and the common house. > > And we have been warned that the transformers supplying our electricity, > installed when we built the community 29 years ago, are likely insufficient > to handle the extra demand. To merely find out the degree of the eventual > shortfall would cost thousands of dollars, our utility tells us, let alone > to upgrade/replace them. > > Moreover, our units were all wired with only 90 amps of service, low by > today's standards and insufficient, some tell us, to operate the additional > chargers and appliances many of us would like to install unless we take > care not to use too much simultaneously. > > This leads to consideration of how else we could both increase supply and > spread out demand. And the obvious answer is rooftop solar. > > Two households have already installed panels, but doing it individually > does not really seem the best way. Some of our roofs are a lot more > suitable than others (shade, direction, configuration), and for any that > are highly suitable, the utility doesn't allow you to generate more power > than you already use. (How shortsighted!) This is on top of a major push by > California (and probably other) utilities to drastically lower the rate > they pay for net metering, as well as imposing a high fee for solar users > to maintain "their share" of the grid. (Another shortsighted approach > seemingly driven by the current economics, not the pressing need to > decarbonize.) > > A great answer in theory would be to develop a community microgrid, which > would involve: > > - Maximizing the amount of generation by installing panels on the most > suitable roofs, individual households and common structures. > - Using batteries to store the power, enabling its accumulation and use > at the most appropriate times of day. > - Finding a not-too-complicated way to distribute the energy and share > the costs and benefits among households. > > I'm engaged in early conversations with some solar designers/installers who > are interested in the idea, and with a board member at our (publicly owned) > utility about getting its cooperation and assistance. > > So my question is whether any of you have accomplished or are contemplating > such a project. If so, let's compare notes and ideas. > > One more thing: It's clear that accomplishing this would be very expensive, > probably beyond our community's ability to finance fully even with a > long-term, low-interest loan -- which would make sense for part of it. What > other possible sources of funding might be available? > > Thanks for any ideas, > David Mandel > Southside Park Cohousing, Sacramento > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://L.cohousing.org/info > > > >
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