Re: We need to find ways to scale this up | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: marvin berkowitz (marvinb780![]() |
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Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 11:21:04 -0700 (PDT) |
Thanks Sharon for all info. Marvin Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 24, 2022, at 9:39 AM, Sharon Villines via Cohousing-L <cohousing-l > [at] cohousing.org> wrote: > > >> >> On Mar 24, 2022, at 11:10 AM, Marvin Berkowitz via Cohousing-L <cohousing-l >> [at] cohousing.org> wrote: >> >> I fully agree with issues of large buy-in being a problem for most >> seniors.Consequently, I am looking for rental. If anybody has info, please >> send on to me. > > There is a book comparing a rental cohousing community in Japan and an > ownership model in Canada called "Collaborative Happiness: Building the Good > Life in Urban Cohousing Communities" by Catherine Kingfisher. Kingfisher is > an anthropologist who studied these two communities over a 6 year period, > living in each one and arranging for a small group from each community to > visit the other. (I’m writing a review for Communities Magazine.) It is > published by a small academic publisher, unfortunately, so it is relatively > expensive — $35 for the Kindle edition. It is part of a series of 7 books on > Life, Culture, and Aging: Global Transformations. > > https://amzn.to/3usXbvJ > > In Japan cohousing is called Collective Housing. Kankanmori Collective > Housing is in Tokyo. It occupies the 2nd and 3rd floors of a 12 storey > building. It includes 29 apartments ranging from 269-650 SF. (NOTE THE > SIZES.) The space was designed and the community formed by a group of > founders working with the Japanese founder of cohousing, architect Ikuko > Koyabe. > > All units open onto common space and the residents hang out in the common > space commonly. It isn’t a “destination" but a place to be. It is occupied at > all time except for mornings just after everyone has gone to work. > > Rental contracts are for 3 years with unlimited renewals. All renters are > required to participate in the community—and they have checklists and > committees that coordinate this. Cooking in rotation is required, everyone is > expected to serve on 2 committees, and there are a few other requirements. > Everyone comes to meetings. Partly because the Japanese culture is > characterized by precision, there are very detailed orientation materials so > new residents can acclimate very quickly. They have also developed procedures > for many things so they are always done the same way, making it easier for > new residents to get involved and understand what to do. There is little or > no friction from integrating new residents. > > They have approximately twice the number of move-ins as the Quayside, the > community in Canada. The rental community has an average of 4 turnovers per > year, but they also have a very strong revisiting rate. Many people come back > for holidays or just to visit. > > I haven’t studied the financing closely but the community is fully in charge > of the budget and the use of the space as ownership communities in the US. > Other countries have very different subsidy schemes and property definitions > so it is not clear if they are subsidized to any extent but the population > demographics in terms of occupations and household sizes are the same as in > US cohousing. The community does offer some discounts for families, but the > community makes these decisions, not the state. > > The issue with rentals is the same with ownership — someone has to have the > money up front. The building has to be built before anyone can pay to live in > it. It might, however, be easier to get HUD support for a rental community, > and Kankanmori would be a good example. The have been very successful since > 2003. > > People have been very dubious of rental cohousing in the US so it is a great > step forward to have this book and this model. The key seems to be that the > building is not “government owned or governed.” The community is self > governing and self supporting (so far as I can understand). > > Sharon > ---- > Sharon Villines > Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC > http://www.takomavillage.org > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://L.cohousing.org/info > > >
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- Re: We need to find ways to scale this up Virgil Huston, March 24 2022
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Re: We need to find ways to scale this up Steve Welzer, March 24 2022
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Re: We need to find ways to scale this up Marvin Berkowitz, March 24 2022
- Re: We need to find ways to scale this up Sharon Villines, March 24 2022
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Re: We need to find ways to scale this up Marvin Berkowitz, March 24 2022
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