Cohousing-L Mailing List: Re: Submetering Water [was Solar microgrid, anyone?

[Ken Winter (ken]

The submeters are spliced into the pipe.  See diagrams in the doc
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/14kO0ncu6-G0W_qJKJqsjxXT9xYAotIWSXGhqTK1aF0c/edit?usp=sharing>,
and esp the photos on pp 14-15 for what these retrofits can really look
like.

On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 1:43 PM Bruce Koloseike <koloseik [at] bellsouth.net>
wrote:

> Ken,
> Is this summering something that has to be put directly into the waterline
> or is it a newer technology that somehow can be fastened around the pipes
> that are already in place?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bruce
>
> > On Mar 25, 2022, at 11:43 AM, Ken Winter <ken [at] sunward.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Sharon ~
> >
> > I'm glad you found my write-up on submetering useful (and even
> > comprehensible).  Your enthusiasm prompts me to finish writing the
> > unfinished parts of it – I'll try to do that in the next few weeks.  If
> it
> > does get stored on the CoHoUS site (which would be a good idea, as it's
> > presently on my own google-drive), please let me know and give me edit
> > access, so I can update it there as needed.
> >
> > I think your question is whether reduced water bills (due to 20% less
> > consumption) offsets the ~$50/unit/year cost of this system, right?  I
> > don't have time now to dig up the data, but I've put your Q as a comment
> > into the doc, so I can address it when I do my next editing session.
> >
> > BTW, we recently made a change in our service provider, and one effect of
> > that was to reduce our estimated costs to $40/unit/year.  I've updated
> the
> > doc accordingly.
> >
> > ~ Ken
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 10:38 AM Sharon Villines via Cohousing-L <
> > cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org> wrote:
> >
> >>> On Mar 24, 2022, at 6:09 PM, Ken Winter <ken [at] sunward.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> At Sunward Cohousing we went over to using submeters for our water
> bills
> >>> several years ago, and we're glad we did.  See my work-in-progress
> report
> >>> on this at
> >>>
> >>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/14kO0ncu6-G0W_qJKJqsjxXT9xYAotIWSXGhqTK1aF0c/edit?usp=sharing
> >>
> >> This is a wonderful document. Is there a place to store documents like
> >> this on the SohoUS website? It’s so complete and clearly written and
> >> formatted that it would be of value to everyone for at least 5-10 years.
> >>
> >> One question — when looking at the cost of $50 per unit, and water
> >> reduction of 20%, has this increased the overall amount the community
> >> spends on water service? Understanding that it has reduced water use and
> >> distributed costs more fairly, there are some in my community who would
> ask
> >> immediately if there is any savings to anyone beyond reducing water
> >> consumption which might be done in other ways.
> >>
> >> Sharon
> >> ----
> >> Sharon Villines
> >> Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC
> >> http://www.takomavillage.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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