Re: DYI solution for tax credits? | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: JoAnna Allen (jowooallen![]() |
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Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2022 08:25:28 -0700 (PDT) |
My community is urban in Oakland CA, a 4 story building, just 6 years
old. The description below is from one of our residents who took the
lead on getting solar on our roof early in our existence as a
community. We residents chipped in to buy "shares" in this investment.
see Phoenixcommons.com
/When we did our installation, we used a middle entity, where we split tax credit. What happened, is:/
* /An entity called Collective Sun fronted half the value of the tax credit toward the purchase of the panels;/ * /PC paid the remaining cost of the panels;/ * /One of Collective Sun's investor's takes title to the system (along with maintenance costs) and is thus enabled to take the full value of the tax credit over 6 years;/ * /At the end of six years the title gets passed to PC.//Not perfect, but the best I found that we could do here with the laws the way they are/
Thanks, JoAnna Allen On Aug 13, 2022, at 9:50 PM, David Mandel <dlmandel [at] gmail.com> wrote:
We're looking at installing solar generation on some of our roofs, first on two carports where EV chargers will live, then if possible on more sun-favorable roofs throughout the community, in a way that we could all share the cost and the benefit. Federal tax credits are available for solar installation, and that works well enough for individual homeowners who have sufficient income to pay taxes. But as a homeowner association our income tax burden is negligible. The typical solution for tax-exempt entities that want to install solar (say, on the roof of a church or a school) is to contract with specialized investors who become the actual owners of the system, get the tax credits ... and sell the power to the nonprofit entity at a discount while retaining a tidy profit as long as the tax credits apply (typically five years, I'm told, maybe 10 under the new federal legislation that just passed). So I'm wondering if there's a way to avoid using such a middle person and losing out on some of the tax advantages. For instance, what if some or all of our residents form a partnership or LLC that would operate similarly but pass on a much larger part of the profit to the community? Has anyone tried or maybe succeeded with such a plan? Or even if not, do you have some financial expertise to opine on whether this would be viable?Hi David, We have a similar situation here at Pacifica in Carrboro, NC. Our Common House roof it was built with solar in mind. It’s a superb location (south facing, unobstructed, co-located w/electrical meter, preferred angle for our latitude), all it needs is panels. However, our HOA is a for-profit entity for tax purposes, and we pay something like $50 per year in taxes. Federal income tax credits wouldn’t work for us. I talked with our accountant and a couple of solar installers, and was advised that the typical solution for folks in our situation is to set up an LLC that claims the credits. Ideally the LLC would be at arms length from the HOA (e.g. not the same members). As you can imagine, it’s non-trivial to set up the LLC correctly and make sure the money flows when and where it should. This isn’t an attractive option for us. I was also told that if one’s HOA is a non-profit, larger and less complicated credits are available. This sounded appealing, but reincorporating our HOA as a non-profit is not a mountain I want to try to move just to make it viable to install solar panels, so I didn’t research that option very much. I’m intrigued by suggestions that the new federal legislation might change the situation for folks like us. I have an opportunity later this week to talk to some solar installers (the company that installed panels on my personal residence) and I'll ask them what they've heard about this. Cheers Philip _________________________________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: http://L.cohousing.org/info
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