Re: Cohesiveness of community after a sale? | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: R Philip Dowds (rphilipdowds![]() |
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2025 06:05:04 -0700 (PDT) |
And that’s pretty close to our emerging one-third persistence rule for 25-year-old cohos. 48 turnovers in 21 years for 34 units is an average tenure of appx 15 years. If we discount the ten units locked up by founders, then it’s appx 10-11 years for the 24 units actually in play — which is closer to post-pandemic averages. However … I am guessing that maybe, of the persistent one-third, about half were actually engaged in much or most of the hard development work of site selection, financing, planning and design — while the other half are late-comers who made their commitment and paid their dues only after construction started. But even these late-comers tended to be participants in writing the bylaws and policies, figuring out how to do the meals program, etc. And so bonded into at least a part of community self-creation. But once it’s fully sold out and occupied, fully up and running, … is the community culture still open and welcoming of change and evolution? Or has it ossified into some sort of putative "stable state" that resists new members and new challenges (like, increasing average age of the membership)? Candidate buyer pre-qualification may have some importance; but more important for “cohesiveness after sale", in my view, is community culture adaptability (or resistance) to change. And intentional acculturation of novices. ——————————— Thanks, Philip Dowds Cornerstone Cohousing Cambridge, MA > On Jul 23, 2025, at 1:00 AM, rlkohl [at] earthlink.net wrote: > > Casa Verde Commons, built in 2002-03 has 34 units. We have 10 of the > original owners still here. > > A tabulation of our resales per year: > > 2025 3, 2024 3, 2023 1, 2022 2, 2021 1, 2020 3, 2019 3, 2018 3, 2017 2, 2016 > 3, 2015 2 > 2014 3, 2013 1, 2012 2, 2011 1, 2010 2, 2009 5, 2008 2, 2007 1, 2006 3, 2005 3 > > Dick Kohlhaas > Casa Verde Commons, Colorado Springs, CO > 34 households on 4 acres Built in 2002-3. > www.casaverde.us > > > > On 21 Jul 2025 at 19:17, R Philip Dowds via Cohousing-L wrote: > >> Homeowner occupancy "turnover rate" statistics are kind of flaky and >> broad-brush, but decades ago, the rule of thumb for an average was every 6-7 >> years or so. Now, given the recent stress of the pandemic, plus a very >> "tight" national housing market, that average is more like 9-10 years. So >> with 32 units, Cornerstone might anticipate 70-80 unit sales in a 25 year >> period. ??? Or, if we consider 11 units locked up by founders who refuse >> to go away, that would be more like 21 units in play, or 40-50 sales >> transactions. Cornerstone, of course, has not had anything near this >> turnover rate - which is consistent with my understanding that cohousing >> turnovers are low and slow compaed to the cono market generally. >> >> None of which answers your question: Is one-third persistence after 25 years >> common on Planet Coho? That doesn´t feel wrong to me, but I have no >> research data. One thing to watch out for is: What´s a "founder"? >> >> ----------- >> Thanks, >> Philip Dowds >> Cornerstone Cohousing >> Cambridge, MA >> >>
- Re: Cohesiveness of community after a sale?, (continued)
- Re: Cohesiveness of community after a sale? Ken Winter, July 21 2025
- Re: Cohesiveness of community after a sale? R Philip Dowds, July 21 2025
- Re: Cohesiveness of community after a sale? Muriel Kranowski, July 21 2025
- Re: Cohesiveness of community after a sale? rlkohl, July 22 2025
- Re: Cohesiveness of community after a sale? R Philip Dowds, July 23 2025
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