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From: Jasmine Gold (jasmine |
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| Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2025 15:56:09 -0800 (PST) | |
Thank you Pare for all that information. It was very helpful. I believe it could be possible to have an LLC own all four lots rather than lease it from the owners, but perhaps leasing it could make sense instead. I hadn't thought of that option. The lots will all have the same owner initially. I definitely need to find a land use attorney familiar with intentional communities. This was my first step. I will definitely look into the communities you suggested. Jasmine > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2025 10:14:35 +0200 > From: Pare Gerou <paregerou [at] gmail.com> > To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org > Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Questions on Financial, Legal and Sweat Equity > Structures > Message-ID: > < > CAP+GJ3icH1byj1hQdZnnyqwCu62thmrdqpUQnqUohzoSmZTomA [at] mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi Jasmine, > > You?ve raised an important set of questions that cross legal, financial, > governance, and social cultural lines ? and you?re right that the > traditional U.S. cohousing model won?t always fit every site or zoning > situation. > > I?m an attorney and have been studying this for decades, and I now have my > own consultancy in Greece- we use collaborative design (and good attorneys) > to design some novel legal forms aligned with our values. From what you?ve > described, your property presents overlapping issues of *zoning, > subdivision, financing, and internal governance* ? not just ownership form. > If I understood, each lot is zoned for one legal owner, and you are hoping > to create a more integrated, community-led structure--- you?ll likely need > to separate and consider separately what?s *legally compliant* from > what?s *socially > cohesive and effective. This is one element that separates intentional > community from privately owned and controlled coliving with leases.* > > A few broad considerations from communities I?ve studied: > > 1. *Entity First, Units Later.* > Many general projects where traditional condo mapping doesn?t work start > with an *LLC or cooperative entity* that owns all the land and buildings. > Members then hold internal leases or ?exclusive use rights? to their homes. > This is common in rural cohousing and ecovillage settings. It avoids > multiple mortgages and allows internal buy-ins, but requires good legal > counsel on securities and resale rules. > > 2. *Sweat Equity.* > It?s possible to formalize sweat equity ? especially when professional > skills like contracting are involved ? but it must be documented and valued > clearly. Most groups use reporting and a written *Memorandum of > Understanding* outlining: > > o a fixed dollar value per hour or per completed improvement, > > o clear scope of work, > > o and how that value is converted to ownership credit or reduced buy-in. > Otherwise, it can create confusion later during resale or exit. > > 3. *Zoning & Permitting.* > Your biggest constraint may not be ownership but *land-use rules*. If each > lot can only have one owner, creating a unified community structure may > require either a *master lease* (LLC leases the parcels from individual > owners) or a *planned development permit modification**.* It?s worth a > conversation with a local land-use attorney familiar with intentional > communities and ADU law. If you'd like true intentional community, it > sounds like this is an important step. > > 4. *Governance.* > No matter what legal form you use, having a sociocratic or consensus-based > decision system from the beginning will help align expectations around > equity, power, and shared responsibility. Having the person interested in > sweat equity involved in making the policy is a first step. > > It might help to look at examples like: > > ? Dancing Rabbit Ecovillage (MO) ? land trust + leasehold model (See > IC.org for some of great courses from the founder- and there is a course on > legal structure you will find helpful) > > ? Earthaven Ecovillage (NC) ? LLC/lease model > > ? Arboretum Cohousing (WI) ? hybrid limited-equity co-op > > Each started from a slightly different regulatory environment and adjusted > the ownership model to fit their land and financing realities. > > Hope That Helped, > Pare (Evi) Gerou > Founder, *Greek Village Cohousing* > (Consultant with two current projects- one is resident owned through an > entity--hybrid cooperative + leasehold model currently under development in > Greece) > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2025 at 7:58?PM Jasmine Gold <jasmine [at] spiritgold.com> > wrote: > > > I'm interested in getting information on how different communities have > > handled buy-in once they've found land as well as alternative ownership > > models to the traditional cohousing model where everyone owns their own > > home. The traditional model won't work for my property so we're trying to > > figure out how to structure it. More details below the questions. > > > > 1. What was your initial or minimum buy in? How did that change over > time? > > > > 2. Are there any communities here that are not legally structured as > single > > family homes or condos? How are you structured? LLC? Tenants in Common? > > Private Membership Association? Co-op? > > > > 2. How does your structure affect buying and selling homes? > > > > 3. Does everyone own the property as a whole and is everyone listed on > the > > mortgage? Do residents have exclusive rights to their home? Is everyone > > invested equally? > > > > 4. Do you have silent investors or investors who don't live there? Do > they > > get a set rate or a percentage of profit? What kind of decision making do > > they have? > > > > 5. Do you allow sweat equity? I'm especially wondering about > > professional services like a licensed contractor who wants to fix up an > > existing home instead of making a down payment. > > > > 6. Did you build your homes together or did the residents build their own > > homes? > > > > I'm sure there will be follow up questions too. > > > > Here are more details on the situation. > > > > My friend and I are in escrow on 10 acres of rural land in Sonoma County, > > California. The property has been subdivided into four lots. Each lot is > > zoned to be able to have a home, 2 ADUs (up to 1200 square feet) as well > as > > a junior ADU (up to 500 square feet) for a possible total of 16 > dwellings > > (15 with common house which might have rental rooms). While legally each > > lot can only have one owner, we hope internally to make all or most of > the > > homes owner occupied. > > > > There are four existing homes on two of the lots that all need a lot of > > work. One lot has a large home on it that may eventually become the > common > > house, but initially the two of us will live in it. The three smaller > homes > > on one of the other lots are currently rented. > > > > There is a family thinking about joining our group that would like to > live > > in one of the rental homes. The husband is a licensed contractor and the > > family can qualify for a loan, but they don't have much cash to put down. > > They would like to fix up their home as sweat equity. This seems perfect > > since the two of us won't have money left over for constructing new homes > > or fixing up the other homes after buying the property and fixing up the > > home we are going to live in. The amount they can pay per month is about > > the same as the house is currently renting for. We aren't sure how to > > credit the sweat equity though. > > > > Thanks for your help, > > Jasmine > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > > http://L.cohousing.org/info > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Questions on Financial, Legal and Sweat Equity Structures Jasmine Gold, October 29 2025
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Re: Questions on Financial, Legal and Sweat Equity Structures Pare Gerou, October 31 2025
- Re: Questions on Financial, Legal and Sweat Equity Structures Linda Gryczan, October 31 2025
- Re: Questions on Financial, Legal and Sweat Equity Structures Jasmine Gold, November 3 2025
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Re: Questions on Financial, Legal and Sweat Equity Structures Pare Gerou, October 31 2025
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