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From: Laura Polich (laura.polich |
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| Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2026 11:00:38 -0800 (PST) | |
I'd like to respond to a couple of things in this latest thread on Hearing in Common Spaces. I am very happy this topic has come up. I want to point out that some of the conversations in this thread are actually about reverberation, not noise. Reverberation always degrades a speech signal, especially as the room gets bigger. Most speech takes place within rooms so there is always a need to factor in how sound bounces around the room and "smears" the speech signal. The first thing to think about with reverberation is: what is the main and most common use of this space? Hard and smooth surfaces increase reverberation, but they are easier to clean. For example, in nursing homes, cleanliness always outranks audibility, which is why you usually find high levels of reverberation in nursing homes which makes it harder to use hearing aids or hear well in nursing homes, but the environment's need to be easily cleanable trumps all other considerations. At Daybreak, we hold our plenaries in our "Great Room" which is also our dining area. Cleanliness is important so some amount of reverberation is always going to remain in our Great Room. Sound-absorbent materials (fabric on furniture, throw pillows, rugs, fabric curtains, wall hangings made of fabric or porous materials) will definitely cut down on reverberation and make it easier to hear in a room. Those same sound-absorbent materials are harder to clean and will make it harder to keep the room clean. It's always a trade-off. I would suggest that using phone-app decibel meters is not that useful to compare two voices or two noises or two rooms. First there are different decibel scales for different uses. There is no single decibel scale. Second, and most importantly, decibels increase logarithmically, not arithmetically. You might think that 60 dB + 60 dB would equal 120 dB, but that is looking at the scale arithmetically. For one common decibel scale 60 dB + 60 dB (in other words a doubling of the sound pressure) is equal to 63 dB. The other problem is that sound dissipates outward in all directions. So small changes in where the sound source is located makes a big difference in how much sound is found at any one point, and if the sound source moves (e.g.the speaker walks around while talking), the measurements have to be recalculated. There is a reason the world has acoustical engineers. A loop-system does not amplify the sound that is spoken into iits microphone. It converts it from acoustic energy to magnetic energy which is broadcast to the room. Telecoils pick up magnetic energy, not acoustic, so only the magnetic speech signal is picked up and processed through the telecoil in the hearing aids (or neckloop). That means the listeners with a telecoil get a cleaner signal, scrubbed of a lot of the noise in the room.But human ears do not pick up magnetic energy so everyone without a telecoil is oblivious to the signal sent through the loop and is not bothered by it, but also not helped by it. Only people with telecoils benefit from the noise reduction of the loop system. I am not against loop systems. They are great for people who have a telecoil, but they don't help the others in the room. A soundfield-amplification system helps everybody. And in ways that are not directly obvious. Less fatigue for everybody when listening, less vocal fatigue for speakers, less avoidance of going to plenaries due to the strain of listening. The ideal would be both systems available at all times, but that expense is pretty high and you would have to have two sets of microphones which would be a logistical problem. Last comment, yes, most audiologists focus on an individual's hearing aids, not the range of acoustic environments those people will meet, because that is what they are being asked to do. A better resource about sound in rooms would probably be Educational Audiologists who work in schools. They are tasked with thinking about an individual child's hearing aids or CI, but also how those devices interact with the classroom's acoustics. Sound is a pretty complicated thing to work with, Laura an audiologist on her way to retirement
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room acoustics Laura Polich, March 5 2026
- Re: room acoustics Sharon Villines, March 5 2026
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