Re: An alternative to the cohousing development ordeal | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Pablo Halpern (phalpern![]() |
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 13:17 CST |
Robert Hartman writes: > The point is, if you want community, the only way to get it is to start > from the beginning. And the beginning is always a shared vision and a > shared commitment to the process of making the vision come true. If > you hand someone who grew up in this culture a package deal, they > won't know what to do with it. [...] > If you build it like a condo, it will be a condo. You'll get a lot of > virtual tenants, and if you're lucky, a core group of full > participants. If you want community, it takes time and commitment. I > wish there were an easy way to get to community without struggle, but > given the stumbling blocks in our culture, I don't think there is one. Yes, you hit on much of what I wanted to say. By analogy, look at how many countries are having trouble adapting to western-style democracy. Part of the problem is that, contrary to the United States, they didn't "grow" their democracies from the ground up, deciding what they want, and getting a commitment from the country to go forward with it. The fact that our founding mothers and fathers are no longer citizens of the U.S. is not pertainent to the success of the system. The democratic culture that they created remains (I am well aware of deficiencies in U.S. democracy. That is not my point -- no flames, please!). Similarly, the fact that the founders of a cohousing community will eventually move out (or die out) does not change the fact that having resident founders is key to the success of a cohousing culture. As new people come in they are attacted to and aculturated in the cooperative culture. This would not happen if someone just built it and sold it. Architecture by itself does not create a community. Just to keep the record straight, I want to clarify that there is still room for developers in cohousing. All I am saying is that I do not believe that a developer can build a housing complex, sell the houses, and have that be a true community, no matter how "tuned-in" that developer may be. Although I hope the development of cohousing will get easier in the future, I think there will always be the need for some sweat and tears on the part of the founding residents. A closing thought on appropriate use of developers to build cohousing: 1) To buy the land and/or take other financial risk. Warning: he/she that takes the risk has the control. Beware of power struggles. Some developers will work on a fee basis, instead of for a percentage profit. OR 2) To manage the development phase and build the thing. I.e. the developer is used as a combination of development consultant and contractor. OR 3) As a development consultant. New View hired a development consultant that is not a developer, but we could have hired a different candidate, one who is a developer. OR 4) As a contractor. Again, the fact that the contractor is also a developer is besides the point. You can hire a general contractor that is not a developer. Only in case 1 is the developer really being used as a developer. In New View, the members have taken all of the financial risk, so we are our own developers, regardless of the consultants and contractors we hire. It is the willingness of developers to work with groups and take risk on behalf of a group (for a profit or fee, of course), that has been hard to find but which should get easier as cohousing becomes more accepted. -- Pablo ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Pablo Halpern phalpern [at] world.std.com (508) 435-5274 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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An alternative to the cohousing development ordeal Jim Kingdon, November 14 1993
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