Re: The "lot" development model | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Pablo Halpern (phalpern![]() |
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 95 10:26 CDT |
This discussion has really brought out how people in different circumstances see issues differently. The "lot" model of building cohousing only works if lots are cheap enough for the people building the cheapest house. This may sound like a requirement for *any* cohousing, but it is not. New View's land is much too expensive for the people building the cheapest houses. We rely on the developer's ability (we are the developer, in this case) to sell larger, more expensive units at a smaller land cost/final cost ratio than the smaller, less expensive units. If we sold land to the members as lots, the people building larger units would get a bargain while the poeple building smaller units would get shafted. Real-life example (numbers are very rough, just to make the point): Our common costs and land work out to about $100,000 per house. If we sold plots at $100,000 apiece, then someone building a a $80,000 2-bedroom structure would pay $180,000 total for their house and land. This is reasonable or a bit high. However, someone building a house 50% bigger that costs $120,000 to build would pay $220,000 for their house - quite a bargain for such a large house. Someone else building a small $60,000 1-2 bedroom house would pay $160,000 for their house - way above market rate for such a small house. Some of this could be fixed by adjusting the lot sizes and prices of plots, but in a community where "my land" is not well defined or very important, you're not really helping much. We looked into this, and the small houses would just not have enough yard while the large houses had more than they needed. We didn't want to set up so strong a "class" system in our community. Conclusion: The lot model *does* work if your land is a relatively modest portion of your development costs. It solves a lot of problems, including pricing policy for houses, consensus on house designs, the ability of some houses to be owner-built or have some amount of sweat equity, etc. However, it doesn't work in many parts of the country owing to high land costs. In those places, cost-shifting is required in order to prevent pricing out moderate-income people. - Pablo ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Pablo Halpern (508) 435-5274 phalpern [at] world.std.com New View Neighborhood Development, Acton, MA, U.S.A. ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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