Cohousing-L Mailing List: Re: What creates community? / NO to drugs

[Fred H Olson WB0YQM (fholson]

Bryan C. Hann (bchann [at] garfield.cs.mun.ca)
is the author of the message below but due
to a listserv problem it was posted by the COHOUSING-L sysop (Fred).
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Well, Jim Freund did not specify which drugs were used.  I can
imagine that (for example) communal wine making or beer brewing,
especially _enjoying_ the fruit of a lot of shared labour and
experiment, could be quite festive.  As could a shared enthusiasm
for espresso.  I am neither approving nor disapproving of the use
of these or any other drugs in this post.  If, however, JJJJandD
states that there is use which _is_ fostering community in his
or her own particular setting, I have no cause to doubt this to
be the case--despite my judgement of the wholesomeness of such
use, pro or con.  Is it to the use of (unspecified) drugs that
you take exception?  Or the claim that it fosters community at
this place?  Or the making of that claim in this forum?  You are
not clear.  

I hope you are not suggesting that addictivity _in itself_ is 
reason to take exception to their communal use, for coffee 
certainly falls into the class of addictive substances, but
I think coffee clatches can be a delightful social (and socially
bonding) activity.

Cheers!
Bryan.

>
>JJJJandD [at] aol.com  <JJJJandD [at] aol.com> wrote:
>
>>Things which may foster community from my experience include:
>>
>>bonfires
>>having fun together
>>drugs
>^^^^^^^   
>...
>
>Without further explaination I have to take major exception to listing
>"drugs" as fostering community.  Addictive drugs (including their illegal
>status) are a major part of the problems communities face today.  I'm
>using the term 'communities' in a broader sense here and there is much
>more that could be said but I oppose any casual endorsement of "drugs'.
>
>Fred
>
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