Re: Elitist lifestyle or public good? | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Paul Barton-Davis (pbd![]() |
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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:34:43 -0500 |
I think that Catherine raises some good points about the accessibility of cohousing, but it seems to me that most of the concerns voiced in the area of "Elitist lifestyle or public good?" seem to miss out on the time dimension. If cohousing is to have any more long term impact than Oneida or the Shakers (and they certainly both have *some*, just not very much), then it is vital that cohousing communities have some stability and character that is independent of their members. I live near a small suburban town called Narberth, which is often touted as a historical example of "New Urbanism". It has an amazing sense of cohesion and community, mostly because it seceded from its enclosing township around 100 years ago. It has its own services, its own main st., its own park and so on. But what is really remarkable about Narberth is not any of its physical characteristics. Instead, I find it really puzzling how this small town has managed to keep a cohesive sense of community over a century or more. The population has been through 4-5 generations since secession, and more significantly, massive demographic changes. It was originally an extremely working class town (hard to believe from the houses, but ...) providing service workers to nearby wealthy communities such as Merion. Nowadays, it is home to a substantial fraction of the (largely middle class white) people who were living in Philadelphia, had kids and decided they had to get out of the city *but hated the "suburbs"*. Old timers from even a couple of generations ago recall Narberth as a fairly scary neighbourhood, despite its community feel even then. I describe this because I have a gut feeling that somehow, Narberth and all other successful long-term *UN*-intentional communities have something that *IN*tentional communities (be they cohousing or something more ideological) do not. Cohousing currently requires the active involvment of its members, indeed thats part of the definition that Katherine has offered us here. Viable long term communities *cannot* rely on this. Instead, they have to function as statistical ensembles: even though in any given time frame (a week, a month, a year, a decade, a generation) its not possible to say *who* will step up to the plate and perform certain key social roles, there are enough people to know that *someone* will. There are no required meetings, no particular actions necessary to demonstrate membership in the community, yet somehow, certain geographically-based collections of people manage to generate some real cohesiveness. Within the framework created by the statistical appearance of certain kinds of people/roles, individuals get on with the job of forming individual alliances that, in aggregate but definitely not individually, define a community. Cohousing is typically concerned with a unit size in which this cannot happen. Even with 100 families (rather large by most cohousing standards) you almost certainly won't get this statistical emergence. So instead, you have to rely on process, on explicit acts of participation to create the community that cohousing is intended to create. Oscar Wilde, when asked what he thought of socialism, said that "it takes up too many Monday evenings". This is not to say that cohousing cannot be successful in engendering a sense of community for its initial participants and possibly even in neighbouring communities. But as a plan for widespread development of community sense, it seems to me to rely to much on the active participation of most the members. This is something that has been demonstrated time and time again in intentional community after intentional community to be unsustainable. Even the oldest cohousing groups in Denmark are barely more than a couple of generations old. They may be modelled on older communities, but those communities were typically larger, more distributed and had this important property of "statistical behaviour". I believe that whenever a community loses that property and has no substitute for it, it will, in fairly short order, lose its sense of community. This happened with the US communes of the late 1960's/early 1970's, in hundreds/thousands of small villages and towns across the world that have shrunk in size, and even in large cities that have destroyed the social mechanisms to allow statistical behaviour to emerge. So, for now, it seems to me that cohousing is not so much elitist as short-term. Solutions to the problem of a lack of community that are based on the energy of a group of people are not long term solutions. Cohousing is a better way to live, I'm sure, but on its own, it cannot do much more than Oneida, or even Drop City. If we want to engender a sense of community, we need structural alterations in our society that go beyond the way we build and use our living quarters. Without those other changes, cohousing communities are "islands", not necessarily but possibly elitist, whose message of a better life is unlikely to change much in the rest of the world. enough, --pbd In message <Pine.SUN.3.96.971016140412.14113F-100000 [at] eskimo.com>you write: > >(I'm not quoting the original posting for space considerations.) > >I think co-housing as exists is a bit on the elitist side. People who are >going to live in cohousing communities need to be able to invest both the >time and money into the community, which will often involve years of >planning, not having an immediate place to live from all of this, etc. >etc. Certainly, it's only a small part of the population that seems to be >intetrested. (Obviously all this has been said before.) > >I wonder how much you can change this and still have it be co-housing. >The extensive planning is a large part of what forms the community both in >the sense that what is built reflects the people, and that they become a >community in large part by going through this process. > >In order for cohousing to become more accessible, it almost has to be >adopted at a city level -- cohousing as a type of subsidised housing, so >that it could become actually affordable. Cohousing done by developers, >to take some (or almost all?) of the planning weight off of the potential >residents. (By the way, for my tuppence, I think cohousing done by >developers -- who are willing to work closely with the residents -- is a >lovely idea.) > >Would it still be cohousing, though? Or something that we would recognise >as cohousing? Communities form slowly. I think one of the functional >strengths of cohousing is that it is so difficult to do -- people have go >through this process together in order to become a community they not only >have to want to be there, but they have to choose to be there and be >willing to work their tails off. The fact that cohousing is hard is an >obstacle to overcome, on the one hand -- let's face it, nothing that >requires that much work is going to be considered by urban planners, >because mostly people don't have the energy (or at least aren't willing to >devote it to this sort of thing) and aren't willing to wait. But if we >remove some of the barriers to cohousing, what do we have left -- a lot of >smallish, hopefully affordable dwellings connected by walkways, and a >common house. I've seen plenty of condos that have a lot of shared >facilities that don't become cohousing... why should this? > >It would be interesting to compare housing developments that were planned >so as to foster community with cohousing communities, and see what the >different experiences are. (Or has this been done? I don't have enough >data.) When I think of cohousing, to me it seems that it requires buy-in >at a level that cannot be planned by urban planners, that cannot be >legislated, and cannot be budgeted. I think there are ideas out of >cohousing that are going to be very useful, and there might be better ways >of partnering cohousing groups with urban planners. But I have trouble >seeing ways to leap the gap from the grass-roots sort of thing that I see >going with cohousing, to planning on a larger scale. > > Catherine > >
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