RE: Negotiating land deals: a sad story | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Rob Sandelin (floriferous![]() |
|
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:40:08 -0500 |
This is a true account of a person whom I will not name (he used to read the list so he can flame me, or send corrections if I get parts of this incorrect) There was once a well meaning person, who had some inheritence money. He heard about cohousing and joined a group, then got bored with the details so went out looking for land instead. Found what looked like a perfect piece, 12 acres, already in 18 tax lots. However, he did not know the first thing about land development and did not ask the most important, first question. (How long has this been on the market). He contacted the owner, told the owner what he wanted to do, expounding gloriously on the cohousing ideals. The owner quietly smiled and said sure, here is the contract. The buyer was overjoyed to find the land price was only $250,000 and the contract terms were only 20%. He put $50,000 down that day and signed a one year contract, with the ability to extend the contract for another year for another 10% payment. The group of course was less enthusiastic, but went along to look at the land. They got excited once onsite and began dreaming and scheming. Three members put in their membership on the spot. Then the troubles began. Turns out that the "meadow" area close to the road, which is where the group thought the buildings would go, in order to preserve the trees on the hill, was a wetland. Ok, we'll put the buildings in the trees. Oops, because its a slope above a wetland there is some engineering requirements. While at the Engineers office they got more bad news, the water district would only provide one residential water hookup. They could buy hookups from other property owners (if they could find sellers) but the going rate was $20,000 per hookup! Regrouping from this, they thought hey, arn't there wells around? Yes!. To do a single residential well is one set of requirements, to do a water system for 18 homes is a whole different, and much more involved process involving creating a Public Utility District, registering and getting an election held, posting a municipal bond, etc. etc. The cost of all this was greater than the cost of the property itself! They never even found out that they couldn't do multi-family housing designs on that land, nor did they ever do a development budget to figure out the projected cost of the land per homesite to see if it was feasable. By now, thoroughly discouraged, the group fell apart, squabbling over who would pay for this fiasco. Since there was no incorporation agreement, nor membership agreements, the well intending gentleman who signed the contract of course was liable. It turned out that two other buyers had defaulted on a contract in three years. So he had to face buying the property himself and reselling it, or letting his contract money go. After evaluating his prospects he bought the land outright himself. The rest of the group was out the preliminary engineering costs. By the way, I just checked, that property is still for sale, three years later. It's now priced at $450,000. And yes, there is still only one residental water hookup available. The cohousing buyer did sell it, and recooped his costs, only losing the investment income on $250,000 for two years. The reason I know this is that a local communities group contacted me and in a random discussion about land, they were looking at that same piece! The point of this story is that developing land requires a great deal of savvy and experience. For example, the first question a savvy developer asks when a property comes to their attention is: How long has this been on the market? Why is that the first question? Because, they know they compete for property with other developers and if its been on the market for a year, several other developers have looked at it, and passed. That's just the first question, there are dozens and dozens more. If you don't know what those questions are, you should be hiring people who do before you sign contracts to buy land. Rob Sandelin Northwest Intentional Communties Association Building a better society, one neighborhood at a time
- (no other messages in thread)
Results generated by Tiger Technologies Web hosting using MHonArc.