Re: Washer/Dryer accessibility | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Berrins (Berrins![]() |
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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 22:41:01 -0700 (MST) |
In a message dated 12/19/01 3:21:22 AM, tamgoddess [at] attbi.com writes: << I have to say something opinionated here. Something I feel very strongly, so please don't take it as a personal rebuke. >> I won't take it personally. We all debated long and hard on this issue and came to a community consensus on it. We wanted to get the laundry room onto the main floor but, if we did, something else would have had to go. 20 out of 24 unit owners had laundry in their houses and several of these folks stated that anyone who needed access in the future would be welcome to use their personal facilities (until the lift is put into the basement, where the laundry facilities are). None of those who were going to use the CH laundry at the time we built required handicap access and none do at present. We recognized the possible reality that someone, someday may require accessible laundry facilities and should that occur we will probably put in the lift to the basement sooner rather than later, if it isn't in already. Keep reading for more explanations... << What other activities have you decided are unimportant for everyone to have access to?>> None. This is the only activity that is not yet handicapped accessible. We are not placing values such as "importance" on what is or isn't accessible. We are operating from an accessible-as-possible basis, not the other way around. << The building inspector doesn't live there. He is the lowest common denominator, and should not be the one who decides who gets to participate in your community! >> The building inspector had nothing to do with it. He merely stated that, according to his interpretation of the Mass building codes, it was okay for us to go ahead with our decision. Building inspectors actually prefer as much handicapped accessibility as possible, never mind what the code requires. << I may sound like a broken record, but I will continue to say this as long as people are building inaccessible common houses. If you can't be sensitized to this, who can? If not now, when? >> Whoever said we weren't sensitized to this issue? Your assumption has been that we weren't. Our CH is completey accessible with the exception of the laundry room, which will be accessible as soon as we put in the lift. Accessiblity issues were discussed at every phase of the design process; this I know, I was on the design team. We bought portable ramps so folks can use them at their houses for guests. All the houses are sited so that permanent ramps can be added later. One of the counters in the kitchen is lower so those in wheel chairs can cook. Most of the houses either have accessible rooms and bathrooms or were built to be easily retrofitted. The list goes on and on. Sensitivity to this issue was extremely high. << And don't think that laundry is unimportant. You never know how people connect. We all do it in our own way. No mobility-impaired person will ever have the joy of getting caught up in work at home, and coming back to your common house to find their laundry already folded.>> << I don't mean to offend. I really don't. But this is just a lousy cop-out. >> Lousy cop-out? That's a value judgement without any knowledge of the process by which we came to this decision. There were many other activities we wanted to put on the main floor (teen room, exercise room, sauna, pantry, to name a few) but we didn't have space for these either. Most or all of these will eventually be built out in the basement, but not until after we put in the lift, which is very high on our list of capital projects. The laundry was the only one put in right away, for those who didn't have laundry facilities at home. In the meantime, as I said above, should anyone ever need accessible laundry facilities, several of us have volunteered our homes. It's far from ideal, but it's the best we can do for now. One alternative we haven't discussed is putting laundry stuff into one of the guest rooms should the need arise. This would require spending some money for hook-ups and losing a guest room, but I suppose it could be done. At this point, we don't need to do this. I hope we get the lift in before we need to have this discussion. We didn't put in the lift right away and we had to keep the square footage of the CH down as much as possible because we had to make several severe budget cuts due to unforeseen financial burdens. One example: the building inspector decided, well after the initial construction budget was set, that we had to build the CH to commercial building standards, adding several tens of thousands of dollars to the cost of construction (and mostly not for accessibility issues). This was unforeseen by both the contractor and the project coordinator, as some pre-existing cohousing communities in Mass had not been required by their building inspectors to build their CH's to this expensive a standard (to be honest, I'm glad ours did; we have a safer and more solidly constructed building as a result). So, well into the development process, we were forced to make many hard budget decisions. The laundry room, along with several other activities, got cut from the main floor. We didn't put the laundry room in the basement because we wanted to. That said, don't deny the downside to laundry facilities; noise, smells, vibration, and other volatile chemicals that chemically sensitive people may not be able to tolerate, such as perfumes from the detergents (possibly making much, if not all, of this floor inaccessible to these folks), not to mention the occasional flooding. Yes, rooms can be engineered to minimize these effects, but putting the laundry room in the basement is the easiest and cheapest solution to these particular problems. And yet, despite these problems, we would have put the laundry on the main floor if we could have. Roger Berman Pathways Cohousing Northampton, MA _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.communityforum.net/mailman/listinfo/cohousing-l
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