RE: RetroFit Cohousing -- Wolf | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Fred H Olson (fholson![]() |
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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:16:03 -0600 (MDT) |
Kevin Wolf, N Street Cohousing <kjwolf [at] dcn.davis.ca.us> is the author of the message below. It was posted by Fred the Cohousing-L list manager <fholson [at] cohousing.org> because the message included HTML ; PLEASE do not post HTML, see http://csf.colorado.edu/cohousing/2001/msg01672.html -------------------- FORWARDED MESSAGE FOLLOWS -------------------- At 08:17 PM 7/7/2002 -0400, Chris Scheuer wrote: > The common house was I think a strong attraction >initially, but without the critical mass of houses connected to create safe >play spaces and the urban oasis they had desired it didn't have enough >staying power, so in a sense they had much of the >organizational/administrative burdens of cohousing, without the spatial >benefits. Hi all N Street Cohousing started by connecting one house at a time. Our common house came along when six houses were connected in 1989. We invited potential future renter/buyers to participate in our meals and processes but the key was having houses that conne cted. In retrospect, we wish we had the vision of 20 houses and had been more aggressive at getting the non-contiguous houses bought/rented before the fence could come down. We would have grown faster and houses would have been brought in at lower costs than when they were finally bought, sometimes ten years later. My recommendation to people interested in starting retrofit cohousing is to find a block with houses that have their kitchen/living rooms facing the backyards, and that are predominantly rentals. Our block was 75% rental housing. This allowed us to take over leases quickly. We added about a house a year for 17 years. We are at 17 units now and expect to grow to 25 units over the next 10 years. We expect most of these to come from purchasing rental homes and coverting them to two units on the lot by adding "granny" flats. I think San Mateo and On Going Concerns, two of the other older retrofit cohousing communities, have a similar experience. Get the units connected so that those people who live there have common spaces in which to visit, dig gardens, share tools and more. The common house is important but ours didn't come on line until after 3 years of living in community. I believe retrofit cohousing requires patience and a long view. Think 20 years or longer and most houses on a block will change hands. Add the spice of offering over market for the housing, and savings in real estate commissions and a number of owners c an be enticed to sell. In CA, one knows that house values will always increase as long as our population increases, as projected for the next 50 years. States without a similar growth projection can't be assured that an over market price will be compensa ted in future rising housing prices. Kevin **************** Kevin Wolf N Street Cohousing Community member 724 N St, Davis, CA 95616 530-758-4211 kjwolf [at] dcn.davis.ca.us To download my facilitation manual or other material on consensus decision making, visit http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/go/kjwolf _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.communityforum.net/mailman/listinfo/cohousing-l
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