Re: Don't discuss this in committees | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Kay Argyle (argyle![]() |
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 17:32:13 -0700 (MST) |
Responses tend to be delayed when you delete most of what you've written, write some more and delete most of it .... Forbidding talk simply drives it underground. When multiple households are involved, _certainly_ anytime there is a question of "taking sides," it is definitely a community matter. Maybe (hopefully) this has no application to your situation, but -- Summer of last year, my friend M. was made unwelcome on a committee she cared very much about, and the community response was a shrug. Things went downhill from there, affecting my own relationships as well (I won't rehash the details, I'm sure I've bitched already about what was going on). There were minor and not-so-minor blowups. At one point or another M. & I each talked the other out of moving. Another household did move, when I went to the Process Committee about them sabotaging a project of M.'s. After a while I realized at root of the problem was negative talk going on -- at meals, I wondered? I tried for a while for changes to make it easier for us to attend meals, partly on the principle that people can't gossip behind your back if you're present. I hoped also that if people knew us better they wouldn't want to say nasty things -- there were incidents that made me feel that people were projecting things onto us, and didn't really see us at all. I got far madder over M.'s treatment than I did my own. As fall turned to winter it spilled into my dealings with the community as a whole, especially as I started to feel that (a) one party in particular was doing her/his best to shut us out, and (b) a number of people knew of his/her and other's unethical behavior and didn't put a stop to it. If anything, people seemed inclined to suppress me, because my indignation made them uncomfortable. That made me even less cooperative. Somebody dropped a word in my ear that things were being said at a confidential community discussion group. That explained a lot. Since who said it would never come to the ears of people who didn't attend, the troublemaker could drip any poison s/he wanted. Hearing things "confidentially," people couldn't come to M. to ask whether such-and-such had really happened and what was her side of the story. With no reality check, the talk grew like fungus in the dark. It damaged her relationships in the community, without her even knowing why. Because they heard she was a problem, they treated her as a problem -- and since she was being treated with distrust and a priori judgement of bad intent, naturally she didn't respond well, and the situation spiraled. Two more units went up for sale, when the troublemaker's spouse got stressed out. (The spouse had gone house hunting over other community problems, so I don't hold myself responsible, though sorry to see the spouse & the relative who owned the other side of the duplex go.) That M. and I stayed was due largely to my -- er, principled stand on the issues (although the term "bloody-mindedness" has a certain validity). I *-well was not going to allow this community to be a place where manipulative tactics determined who lived here; that wasn't what the community was supposed to be. At a retreat this summer, the outside facilitator's mandate was to help the community figure out the stumbling blocks keeping us from accomplishing community projects. As he quickly saw, the situation around us was a major one. A number of people admitted to passing along "She always" and "she never" generalizations about M. that had no basis in their own experience of her. Having been dragged out in the open, and people realizing what they themselves were contributing, the situation is much less tense, as people mend fences (if you can use that term of a community that makes lack of fences a point of pride). I don't see that it would have changed without being brought into the open. Kay _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.communityforum.net/mailman/listinfo/cohousing-l
- Re: Don't discuss this in committees, (continued)
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Re: Don't discuss this in committees Sharon Villines, November 21 2002
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Re: Don't discuss this in committees/children-long Elizabeth Stevenson, November 21 2002
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- RE: Sharing Children Rob Sandelin, November 21 2002
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Re: Don't discuss this in committees/children-long Elizabeth Stevenson, November 21 2002
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Re: Don't discuss this in committees Sharon Villines, November 21 2002
- Re: Don't discuss this in committees Kay Argyle, December 11 2002
- Re: Don't discuss this in committees Sharon Villines, December 11 2002
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Don't discuss this in committees Becky Schaller, November 21 2002
- Re: Don't discuss this in committees Elizabeth Stevenson, November 21 2002
- Re: Don't discuss this in committees Sharon Villines, November 21 2002
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