RE: Archive question
From: Sheila Braun (sbraungmavt.net)
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 10:03:01 -0700 (MST)
Dec 14, 2002:  Check out new URL at end of this (and every list message) for 
Cohousing-L info page.  Season's Greetings.  Fred, list manager.
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You can add me to the "We Like YahooGroups" contingent. I've had lists on there 
for seven years now & have had problems only once. And you can get rid of the 
ads ($4.95 per month or something ridiculously low like that). 

Re: the objection about yahoogroups becoming a monopoly like microsoft. I guess 
I think that yahoo becoming larger & including millions more lists would be bad 
only if they used predatory tactics to make sure nobody *but* them could exist, 
or if they did a lousy job organizing and archiving them. I don't get that 
sense from them, though. It seems to me that yahoo is a really good idea that 
meets many needs for many, many different kinds of people and keeps improving 
over time.

Sheila

On 20 Dec 2002 02:13 EST you wrote:

> Dec 14, 2002:  Check out new URL at end of this (and every list message) for 
> Cohousing-L info page.  Season's Greetings.  Fred, list manager.
> - -
> 
> >>
> Another advantage to YahooGroups that I just thought if is that if a
> member is having difficulty, there are many people on the list who can
> explain things to them -- not just the one (tired) list manager.
> <<
> Amen! That's a BIG advantage.  Plus the skills you learn using one
> Yahoogroup to tap into one little discussion world can be leveraged to
> tap into lots of other worlds.  To some extent that's true with list
> servers, in that many are based on the same software and have similar
> command sets.  But in years of using list servers I still don't know any
> of the commands by heart, and I've never set up a list server. By
> contrast I've set up probably 15 or 20 different Yahoo groups and
> participated in many more. It's just *easy*.
> 
> I guess you and I can be the "We Like Yahoogroups" contingent here. 8-)
> 
> By the way, have you noticed that there are 119 Yahoogroups in the
> category "Top > Cultures & Community > Groups > Intentional Communities
> > Cohousing"  ?  A few of these are bogus or misclassified, but a good
> hundred of them are not.
> 
> Greg Dunn
>  
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cohousing-l-admin [at] cohousing.org
> [mailto:cohousing-l-admin [at] cohousing.org] On Behalf Of Sharon Villines
> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 10:56 AM
> To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_Archive question
> 
> 
> Dec 14, 2002:  Check out new URL at end of this (and every list message)
> for Cohousing-L info page.  Season's Greetings.  Fred, list manager.
> - -
> 
> On 12/17/2002 1:06 PM, "Greg Dunn" <MyLists [at] gregdunn.com> wrote:
> 
> > With newsgroups, only message headers get downloaded (by default): the
> 
> > body of a message doesn't get downloaded until you select it for 
> > reading. This greatly reduces the quantity of material that has to be 
> > downloaded - very important if you participate in a lot of groups.
> 
> I think this is why people like to read YahooGroups on the web. They go
> to the site and review the message headers (and who sent them) and only
> read the messages they want to read. There is no downloading (except for
> the web page.
> 
> I'm one of the people who just never learned what a newsgroup was. If
> the group has too many messages, I just read on the web when I'm
> interested.
> 
> One group of discussers I belong to has found a good method of reducing
> traffic. They have a basic identifier for the subject then form sublists
> around that. Some people subscribe to all the lists and some just to
> sublists. There no double posting. In cohousing it would go like this --
> using coho as the shortened group name
> 
> Coho
> Coho-Recipes
> Coho-GreenBuilding
> Coho-Homeschooling
> Coho-LegalFinancial
> Coho-Professionals
> Etc.
> 
> That allows general discussion to go on while some people can just check
> in on the subject they want to read about. If you care about all of
> them, you join all the lists. When a subject is being discussed on one
> of the lists that people on another list might want to know about, they
> let others know
> -- "GreenBuilding is discussing that topic now," or "Homeschooling just
> found out about ... and is discussing it."
> 
> Another advantage to YahooGroups that I just thought if is that if a
> member is having difficulty, there are many people on the list who can
> explain things to them -- not just the one (tired) list manager.
> 
> Sharon
> -- 
> Sharon Villines
> Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC http://www.takomavillage.org
> 
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