Cohousing-L Mailing List: RE: Re: dishwashers

[Casey Morrigan (cjmorr]

Having visited Rosewind and seen their kitchen (courtesy of Lynne) , I have
to say I had the most intense case of Coho Kitchen Envy ever documented when
I glimpsed it.  It was laid out beautifully and I am glad to hear Lynne say
that the dishwashing set up works well.

Casey Morrigan
Two Acre Wood
Sebastopol, California

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cohousing-l-admin [at] cohousing.org
> [mailto:cohousing-l-admin [at] cohousing.org]On Behalf Of Lynn Nadeau
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:27 AM
> To: cohousing L
> Subject: [C-L]_Re: dishwashers
>
>
>
> Here at RoseWind we have a commercial slide-in dishwasher and
> we love it.
> It's in a corner. There's a Formica countertop extension that
> is good for
> collecting dirty dishes. Right there is a drawer where we scrape our
> compost into a stainless bin. Then a "spray table" with
> stainless counter
> by it, with the dishwasher in the corner. The square trays of
> dishes go
> in the dirty side, then emerge on the clean side, where there
> is room for
> two full trays to air dry. (Room for a third tray would have been
> helpful, but this works ok.) Next to that is a conventional
> three-part
> pot sink, also stainless. Our clean Corelle dishes live on a rolling
> Rubbermaid three-tier cart, which is at the beginning of the serving
> line, but can be rolled into the kitchen for refilling with
> clean plates,
> bowls, and silverware.
>
> The matter of water waste in pre-rinsing dishes is easily
> solved by using
> a dishpan to rinse the dishes. A dish brush with a handle
> will quickly
> clean plates for loading. And it doesn't matter that you're
> using "dirty"
> water for the job. (Not to mention that our sprayer usually
> ended up with
> lots of water on the person spraying, and on the floor, due to the
> rebound effect.) Another pan with soapy water in it is where
> silverware
> gets dumped prior to loading. Just swishing a handful of
> silverware is
> usually plenty to prepare it for the dishwasher.
> >The large commercial dishwashers aren't in any way good for
> your back and
> >will make anyone with the inability to lift a large heavy
> tray feel less
> >abled and less valued. I know, you only have to slide some
> of them. It's
> >still very hard on your back in the long run.
> I have a weak back and our system is no problem at all. The
> empty trays
> are stacked under the sink, and are not heavy. The trays are
> filled over
> the spray sink, from which point they slide in and out of the
> dishwasher.
> They are then emptied either when dry, or by a dish dryer (a
> quick swipe
> with a clean dish towel is all it takes, as they are hot),
> without moving
> the rack from the counter till it's empty again. I've seen
> most of our
> members use the set up, and we have many who don't have strong backs.
> Even if you moved a full rack, we have Corelle dishes and they aren't
> very heavy.
> >
> >Another consideration is how you want the kitchen to FEEL.
> We have always
> >maintained that we wanted it like a home and not a
> commercial kitchen.
> www.rosewind.org shows photos of our kitchen. Warm colors,
> tile work, and
> such do a good job of giving our kitchen an attractive look.
> If you are
> planning a kitchen, have a look. I'd be glad to respond to
> any questions
> you have from the photos.
> >
> >I hate commercial dishwashers, and I think that the
> communities that have
> >them defend them because it would be too psychically
> damaging to admit they
> >wasted all that money for a big loud eyesore.
> That sure isn't true here. Nor does the brief period of noise seem to
> bother those who still sit and chat in the dining room.
>
> Lynn Nadeau, RoseWind Cohousing
> Port Townsend Washington (Victorian seaport, music, art, nature)
> http://www.rosewind.org
> http://www.ptguide.com
> http://www.ptforpeace.info (very active peace movement here- see our
> photo)
>
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