RE: sweat equity | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: TR Ruddick (truddick![]() |
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Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 14:28:04 -0600 (MDT) |
> [Original Message] > From: Elizabeth Cobb <lizacobb [at] earthlink.net> > To: cohousing-l <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org> > Subject: [C-L]_Sweat Equity > Reply-To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org > > I am a recent fan of cohousing [edit] > But as I read people's messages, I began to be afraid that co-housing was= > less successful at addressing the big gap between the haves and havenots= > -- it seemed to me that at worst, co-housing was just a new way for midd= > le class people to secure their own piece of the pie.[ edit] > > I also see co-housing as a way to develop the ability to visualize a soci= > ety that is non-hierarchic. [edit]> > What do you think, readers? > > Liza Cobb and one of the replies was: > From: "Rob Sandelin" <floriferous [at] msn.com> > > I agree with a previous post to Elizabeth Cobb, you would benefit a great > deal from actually living in a community first [edit] > One of things I would pass on, is that any one particular community is > unlikely to encompass all of what you seem to want and believe, and by > visiting several, you will find many parts, in many places which you can > draw ideas and inspirations from. Now, am I being overly touchy here, or does it seem that there's a teensy bit of attitude here? Having only reached the early stages of actually doing cohousing, I admit that I don't know the details from experience, and there is probably much to be learned from hearing and sharing with those who've actually completed the process. But time and again I get a message from current residents of cohousing that goes "until you've really lived in one, you can't really know what it's like or what you want from it--and any variations on what has normally been done are questionable at best." I don't doubt Rob's expertise, but 90% of attempts at starting cohousing are failures. While there's no arguing against success, there must be some new way of approaching it that would lead to a higher rate of success for new groups, whatever that may be. Golly Geeze Jehosephat, there are so few cohousing communities in this nation so far, most of them (all the good ones) with waiting lists--telling her to try to live in cohousing first is a little like telling her to walk on the moon. Possible--but how likely? Especially since most of us are at least somewhat place-bound (career, family, preference, habit, whatever). So when someone comes up with a different perspective or a new idea, why isn't it greeted with "gee, that's certainly an idea! Here are my insights." or else a hard bit of evidence about why it isn't practical? Failing that, skeptical silence? If I'm being overly sensitive, please ignore previous. Or tell me off on no uncertain terms (I'm thick-skinned). TR Ruddick Dayton Cohousing _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L
- RE: Sweat Equity, (continued)
- RE: Sweat Equity Martin Tracy, April 5 1995
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Sweat Equity Elizabeth Cobb, July 5 2003
- RE: Sweat Equity Rob Sandelin, July 5 2003
- RE: Sweat Equity Casey Morrigan, July 5 2003
- RE: sweat equity TR Ruddick, July 6 2003
- Attitude and New Ideas [was sweat equity] Sharon Villines, July 6 2003
- Re: RE: sweat equity Diane Simpson, July 6 2003
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RE: Sweat Equity Forbes Jan, July 6 2003
- RE: Sweat Equity Matt Lawrence, July 6 2003
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