RE: Re: [C-L]_Physical accessibility and neighborhood walkways
From: Lyons Witten (lwittenneeinc.com)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:57:11 -0700 (MST)
Diane-
We used "soil pavement" in a very limited application at Pioneer Valley
Cohousing in Amherst, MA, and it is holding up several years later.

We used it to pave a parking space for a golf cart.  The parking space
is at the edge of our asphalt paved "loop" in a location that used to be
grass.  The installation was done by us, by hand, and was rough to begin
with.  It has held up now for two years, and looks smoother than it did
originally. I am sure a "professional" installation would be quite
smooth.

We considered using it to pave our parking areas and driveways 3 years
ago, but the manufacturer did not have any cold weather installations
that had yet stood the test of winter, or several winters, so we opted
for asphalt as a safer investment. If I remember correctly, they had
just completed an installation in Minnesota, and were about to
experience winter #1 with plowing and freezing. We have 1800 feet of
driveway and parking areas, and another 600 feet of paved loop that all
gets plowed and sanded/salted with a full-sized truck.  We needed a
proven surface material.  

If we were to pave new surfaces now, and the surface was only going to
be cleared with a snow blower, I would certainly consider it as an
acceptable alternative based upon our limited trial. Larger
installations would require more data and proven success in survival of
several winter seasons.

Lyons     (Chair of B&G at Pioneer Valley Cohousing)
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Lyons Witten, PG, LSP
New England Environmental, Inc.
9 Research Drive
Amherst, MA  01002-2774
www.neeinc.com
(413) 256-0202          lwitten [at] neeinc.com
(413) 256-1092 fax    (413) 262-4009 cell
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-----Original Message-----
From: Laura Fitch [mailto:lfitch [at] krausfitch.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 8:40 AM
To: Lyons Witten
Subject: Fwd: Re: [C-L]_Physical accessibility and neighborhood walkways

Lyons,

do you want to respond to Diane's (JP Coho) question?  Our experience is
a 
bit limited!


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>Subject: Re: [C-L]_Physical accessibility and neighborhood walkways
>From: Diane Simpson <coho [at] theworld.com>
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>
>
>Has anyone on this list ever used "soil pavement" in any of their
project?
>The manufacturers claim it is stronger than asphalt, cheaper than
asphalt, 
>and easier to repair. I'd like some verification on this.
>
>--Diane(:^|
>JP COHOUSING  617-524-6614
>P.O. BOX 420 BOSTON MASSACHUSETTS
>HTTP://WWW.JPCOHOUSING.ORG
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