Cohousing-L Mailing List: Re: please keep our list on email

[Jock Coats (jock.coats]

However, I am involved in a project that aims to integrate one of the 
popular mailing list manager systems, Mailman, with Zope, a web 
application framework.  Which we hope will allow people to opt for 
e-mail, or web based discussion, or even usenet newsgroups as a way to 
receive and respond to mailing lis messages.

There are considerable hurdles, but it should be interesting if we do 
it.

Jock

On 2 Mar 2004, at 19:06, Jim Rebman wrote:

> Last one on this...
>
> > Interesting, Jim.  I've long been disappointed with the web's trends
> in
> > utility to text based users (which closely correlates with
> useability by
> > blind folks, I think).  There may be some hope in the future when
> the web
> > "know" more about what it is delivering (the semantic web is one
> term that
> > I think applies) but I'm not holding my breath.  I'd also like to
> see an
> > overhaul of email protocols and useage but now I can imagine loss of
> > utility in the attempt to improve things.
>
> I am an HCI usability and accessibility person and I couldn't agree
> more.  The basic problem is that the web is inherently a system of
> linear links and the kind of "random" acces one needs to work such
> things as threaded discussion systems, collaborative work, and
> knowledge building systems, and web mail are really not particularly
> well suited to the way the web was designed to work.  When you
> consider that a screen reader essentially forces a serial access
> interface on you, it only compounds the problems -- and all this is
> separate from all the basic web accessibility issues around alt tags,
> javascript controls, flash, mouseovers, and all the other eye candy
> that designers have at their disposal today.  The access is getting
> better with these things but it forces the designers to be aware of
> the issue and the technological constraints they have to work within.
> Fun stuff <smile>.
>
> Ok, no more on this, I promise.
>
> -- Jim
>
>
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