Re: Organic Food and cohousing | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Sharon Villines (sharon![]() |
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Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 08:33:54 -0700 (PDT) |
On Jun 5, 2005, at 10:36 AM, Racheli Gai wrote:
However, the issue of buying organic has a lot to dowith a viewpoint which places high priority on creating a sustainable way of life. [snip] On a more general level, I'm finding (after nearly 5 years in my cohousing community), that the idea that people of all ideologies can live side by side happily is truly NOT a viable one, partly because of the close proximity in which we reside: Someone who wants an "organic" neighborhood, finds it hard to live in close proximity to someone who thinks that using pesticides is a viable option
There is another spin to this too -- vegans who eat horribly unhealthy diets. White Wonder bread, sugar colas, processed food. Their standard is that it has no animal products, not whether it is organic or poison. After years of being macrobiotic and studying the principles of raw food diets this drives me nuts. Vegan works well if you do lots of greens and raw foods and whole grains but not if it just excludes animal food.
I've essentially opted out of our meals because of noise and chaotic serving but also the food is just too unpredictable. If it weren't for the chaos I could bring my own meal. But we have open shelves in our kitchen and I'm embarrassed to see some of the foods on them. Canned vegetables, white flour mixes, pasteurized soy sauce, sodium instead of sea salt, etc. I do eat junk food -- I love MacDonalds but once a month is fine. I can be _that_ much of an American and enjoy it. On birthdays I want "real" cakes, not politically correct ones with no fats, no sugar, etc. I like tofu when it is tofu, not when it is ice cream. There is only so much you can do to pizza before it is no longer pizza. A lot of dead food gets served in our kitchen.
It is hard to live closely or even to undertake an educational program with people who have a very different sensibility. I would love it if we had community standards and allow exceptions. A standard would gradually raise the community awareness of healthy food. No fat does not equate to healthy.
The ambiguity serves the initial and paramount need of selling units, but really sets things up for trouble in the long run, because it creates a great likelihood that people with potentially incompatible sets of values endup living next to each other.
I would phrase this a different way -- when most cohousing communities are forming they do not have a clear sense of what they want because most cohousing members have NOT lived in intentional communities before. Many people have moved into cohousing because it allows them to have community "without living in an intentional community" which they think is synonymous with a commune.
What I think is important is that cohousing be willing to include the full range of communities. As Racheli says, having a mainstream American community is also a restriction, just a different one.
"Cohousing" is a helpful term as long as it is broadly (or narrowly) defined as "a self-managed residential community that is architecturally designed or modified to increase resident interaction and that all the residents joined with the intention of participating in the community life."
Then from there specific communities can go where they like -- Senior, Christian, Vegetarian, Sustainable, etc.
I doubt very much that many communities who think they are very diverse are actually very diverse. The self-selection process automatically limits diversity. When we have more cohousing communities I think we will find more people moving from one community to another one to find greater harmony with their own beliefs.
Sharon ----- Sharon Villines Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC http://www.takomavillage.org
- Re: Organic Food and cohousing, (continued)
- Re: Organic Food and cohousing Racheli Gai, June 4 2005
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Re: Organic Food and cohousing Deborah Mensch, June 4 2005
- Re: Organic Food and cohousing John Beutler, June 5 2005
- Re: Organic Food and cohousing Racheli Gai, June 5 2005
- Re: Organic Food and cohousing Sharon Villines, June 5 2005
- Organic Food and cohousing/ ideological diversity in cohousing Racheli Gai, June 5 2005
- Re: Organic Food and cohousing/ ideological diversity in cohousing dahako, June 5 2005
- Re: Organic Food and cohousing John Beutler, June 5 2005
- Re: Organic Food and cohousing Chris ScottHanson, June 6 2005
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