Re: tipping point (was: alternatives to sanctions) | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Martin Sheehy (martinsheehy![]() |
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Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 12:51:57 -0700 (PDT) |
I find this discussion fascinating, as a medical manager of physicians. We in Physician Exec. roles say:" Changing physician behavior is like herding cats!. Christine Johnson <manzjohnson [at] netzero.net> wrote: Hans G. Ehrbar who wrote: > Does this mean that we have to forget about all that touchy feely > consensus stuff, since there is no alternative to a > policeman knocking at your door? to which Sharon Villines responded: >How did you get from sanctions to dropping consensus? Wouldn't sanctions, or I would prefer to call them consequences of choices, > would be decided by consensus in a consensus community? >And in this study, I think the most telling point is that only took a few games for everyone to switch the mode where only those who >contributed reaped the rewards. This has nothing to do with sanctions. Sharon's points are right on target. The argument that we choose either consensus or police(force) is of course, false. In the game, the consequences were clearly the result of prior behavior which allowed the participants who were paying attention to make the connections and change their behavior accordingly. In social groups of any kind, the connections between behavior and its results are not obvious to everyone who is involved in the group. Too many intervening variables. Those who don't see the connections, or see them but choose to ignore them to advance their own interests, are the folks who make living in any kind of community sometimes unpleasant (from huge condo/townhomes complexes, to cohousing, to small intentional communities). How is it that we influence members of a group to make the choice to contribute in rough proportion to what's gained through the association with the group? Can we influence people to comply with agreed upon rules in the absence of effective social pressure or sanctions? I don't think so. What would be the alternative? I wonder if there is a tipping point in a cohousing community: for example, if some percentage of the owners simply do not care what other's wishes are or what others think of their behavior, does it happen that people who are the "contributors" finally limit their efforts to only that which is of immediate personal benefit? At that tipping point then, it's just a matter of contracting for the work that must be completed in order to protect property values. I wonder if there must be roughly comparable reciprocity for community to work the way we like to see cohousing described in the literature. Or maybe the literature describes an ideal to which we look to, to sustain us through the hours of meetings. Christine Johnson Stone Curves Cohousing Tucson, AZ _________________________________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/
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tipping point (was: alternatives to sanctions) Christine Johnson, May 2 2006
- Re: tipping point (was: alternatives to sanctions) Martin Sheehy, May 2 2006
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