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From: Tom Hammer (thammer302![]() |
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Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 20:02:33 -0700 (PDT) |
In response to Ronald, there are many long-term alternatives that the world's best scientists and engineers have been thinking about that don't entail obtaining all energy locally. For some examples, an article I found very readable and enlightening n.p.i.(no pun intended), especially because each possible solution is presented with a "reality factor", is below. Tom Hammer Concord Village "Building homes that will take no carbon fuels to heat, cool, or light." (using geothermal and electricity from wind power purchased from the power company) http://www.concordvillage.org Title: Plan B for Energy., By: GIBBS, WAYT, Scientific American, 00368733, Sep2006, Vol. 295, Issue 3 Database: MasterFILE Premier Plan B for Energy Contents If efficiency improvements and incremental advances in today's technologies fail to halt global warming, could revolutionary new carbon-free energy sources save the day? Don't count on it--but don't count it out, either NUCLEAR FUSION REALITY FACTOR: 3* Starry-eyed physicists point to the promise of unlimited fuel and minimal waste. But politicians blanch at fusion's price tag and worry about getting burned Fast Facts HIGH-ALTITUDE WIND REALITY FACTOR: 4 The most energetic gales soar far over the tops of today's turbines. New designs would rise higher--perhaps even to the jet stream Fast Facts SCI-FI SOLUTIONS REALITY FACTOR: 1 Futuristic visions make for great entertainment. Too bad about the physics Cold Fusion and Bubble Fusion Matter-Antimatter Reactors SPACE-BASED SOLAR REALITY FACTOR: 3 With panels in orbit, where the sun shines brightest--and all the time--solar could really take off. But there's a catch Showstoppers NANOTECH SOLAR CELLS REALITY FACTOR: 4 Materials engineered from the atoms up could boost photovoltaic efficiencies from pathetic to profitable Essentials A GLOBAL SUPERGRID REALITY FACTOR: 2 Revolutionary energy sources need a revolutionary superconducting electrical grid that spans the planet WAVES AND TIDES REALITY FACTOR: 5 The surging ocean offers a huge, but virtually untapped, energy resource. Companies are now gearing up to catch the wave In Progress DESIGNER MICROBES REALITY FACTOR: 4 Genetic engineers think they can create synthetic life-forms that will let us grow energy as easily as we do food Essentials OVERVIEW MORE TO EXPLORE Section: REVOLUTIONARY ENERGY SOURCES If efficiency improvements and incremental advances in today's technologies fail to halt global warming, could revolutionary new carbon-free energy sources save the day? Don't count on it--but don't count it out, either To keep this world tolerable for life as we like it, humanity must complete a marathon of technological change whose finish line lies far over the horizon. Robert H. Socolow and Stephen W. Pacala of Princeton University have compared the feat to a multigenerational relay race [see their article "A Plan to Keep Carbon in Check"]. They outline a strategy to win the first 50-year leg by reining back carbon dioxide emissions from a century of unbridled acceleration. Existing technologies, applied both wisely and promptly, should carry us to this first milestone without trampling the global economy. That is a sound plan A. The plan is far from foolproof, however. It depends on societies ramping up an array of carbon-reducing practices to form seven "wedges," each of which keeps 25 billion tons of carbon in the ground and out of the air. Any slow starts or early plateaus will pull us off track. And some scientists worry that stabilizing greenhouse gas emissions will require up to 18 wedges by 2056, not the seven that Socolow and Pacala forecast in their most widely cited model. It is a mistake to assume that carbon releases will rise more slowly than will economic output and energy use, argues Martin I. Hoffert, a physicist at New York University. As oil and gas prices rise, he notes, the energy industry is "recarbonizing" by turning back to coal. "About 850 coal-fired power plants are slated to be built by the U.S., China and India none of which signed the Kyoto Protocol," Hoffert says. "By 2012 the emissions of those plants will overwhelm Kyoto reductions by a factor of five." Even if plan A works and the teenagers of today complete the first leg of the relay by the time they retire, the race will be but half won. The baton will then pass in 2056 to a new generation for the next and possibly harder part of the marathon: cutting the rate of CO2 emissions in half by 2106. Sooner or later the world is thus going to need a plan B: one or more fundamentally new technologies that together can supply 10 to 30 terawatts without belching a single ton of carbon dioxide. Energy buffs have been kicking around many such wild ideas since the 1960s. It is time to get serious about them. "If we don't start now building the infrastructure for a revolutionary change in the energy system," Hoffert warns, "we'll never be able to do it in time." But what to build? The survey that follows sizes up some of the most promising options, as well as a couple that are popular yet implausible. None of them is a sure thing. But from one of these ideas might emerge a new engine of human civilization. (article continues with discussion, diagrams, and charts.) > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 10:46:26 -0700 (PDT) > From: Ronald Frederick Greek <fred.greek [at] yahoo.com> > Subject: [C-L]_ Think Long Term... > To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org > Message-ID: > <407854.53413.qm [at] web55215.mail.re4.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > > In a long-term sustainable and stable human > community, there would essentially be no new housing > construction, other than replacement for such as > exceed their useful lifespan. > > > > Eventually, regardless of conservation efforts, we > will have to end all fossil fuel use (oil, coal, > gas, shale oil, tar sands, etc?) > > > > While the first-thought for alternative energy > sources might be that prices will come down with > more demand, and economics of scale for production, > there is a barrier to face: > > > > An annual human energy use of 30 billion barrels of > oil is a lot of energy? Run the numbers in BTU or > kilowatt equivalents, and compare to whatever > renewable you like, I suspect you will find that > there is no practical long-term approach that is > going to allow humanity to continue to use energy at > the current level. > > > > Absent some energy miracle, without the "free" > energy from fossil fuels, what works, and what > doesn't? > > > > Doesn't everything essential need to be > re-localized? > <message truncated>
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Think Long Term... Ronald Frederick Greek, July 4 2007
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- Re: Think long term... Tom Hammer, July 5 2007
- Re: Think long term... Brian Bartholomew, July 6 2007
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