Cohousing-L Mailing List: Re: Advertising available houses on this list

[Vince Barco (vbarco]

As a potential co-houser, I welcome information about available co-housing.  
Its one of the reasons I subscribe to the list.

Please allow folks to continue to post their ads for housing available.

Thanks
Vince
 




----- Original Message ----
From: Racheli Gai <racheli [at] sonoracohousing.com>
To: Cohousing-L <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2008 2:50:13 PM
Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Advertising available houses on this list

 
As a long time member of this list, I wish to say that I have 
absolutely no objection
to people advertising coho houses for sale or rent on this list.

Racheli.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig Ragland [mailto:craigragland [at] gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 10:53 AM
> To: Cohousing-L
> Subject: [C-L]_ On sending Cohousing-related permission-based emails
>
>
> I recently received yet another broadcast about a cohousing group with 
> units
> for sale.
>
> Here is my reply (altered to protect the innocent) - following my 
> reply, I
> share a bit about the emails that Coho/US currently broadcasts to our
> "permission-based" lists...
> ---------------------------
> Dear <<insert Name Here>>,
>
> With so many permission-based communication channels available, such as
> Coho-L and the Cohousing Website, sending broadcasts out to people who 
> did
> not specifically request that information is easily categorized by 
> their
> recipients as SPAM.
>
> I note that three of your <<insert State Name Here>> Cohousing 
> "competitors"
> are advertising in the Cohousing Website Classified Ads:
>
> http://www.cohousing.org/mkt/marketplace
>
> These groups have the permission of their audience for their attention.
>
> While I'm happy to hear this news from <<insert Cohousing Group Name 
> Here>>,
> I suspect that some of those you reached out and touched may not be.
>
> Sincerely,
> Craig
> ---------------------------
> The challenge for forming groups is that it is so tempting to just tell
> everybody about what you are doing. This is only an issue because 
> there are
> so many forming groups. Personally, I'm being paid by Coho/US to care 
> about
> forming groups. There is almost nobody else being paid to care about 
> you. I
> keep hearing about, and receiving emails from people who are 
> broadcasting
> their mails to anybody and everybody, when such a small percentage of
> recipients actually want to receive them. One of our challenges is 
> that open
> forums like Coho-L, the Cohousing Website Classified Ads and 
> Directory, make
> it so easy for people to harvest email addresses for their mailing 
> lists.
>
> Ideally, we can all figure out ways to reach those people who do care, 
> while
> avoiding SPAMing lots of other cohousers, just because they might know
> somebody that might serve your group's needs.
>
> I would like to share a bit about how Coho/US is dealing with our 
> mailing
> lists.
>
> Coho/US has a database of many thousands of email addresses, many with 
> more
> complete information that we sometimes use to contact folks via mail or
> phone. We have just begun to use this database more extensively... we
> recently hired Lisa Biskup from RoseWind Cohousing as our database 
> manager.
> It is my hope that Lisa, using our new CiviCRM-based contact management
> system, will really get our act together so we can effectively 
> communicate
> with people who want to receive our mailings.
>
> The way permission-based email is intended to work is that we send a 
> mailing
> of a particular type to only those people who have requested 
> information on
> that topic. What this means - practically speaking (today) - is that
> whenever you get an email from Coho/US on a topic you have no interest 
> in,
> you can open the email and click a link near the bottom of the email to
> unsubscribe. After you do that, and then respond to the confirmation 
> email,
> you will no longer receive emails of that type from Coho/US - we, 
> obviously,
> have no control over any other group and some of them are very likely 
> to
> send you cohousing-related emails if your email address is publically
> accessible, say in the Coho-L archives...
>
> To make this a little clearer, at the moment I'm writing this, another
> Conference Bulletin sharing new information on the 2008 National 
> Cohousing
> Conference is currently in the process of being sent (I just checked 
> and
> 10.95% of that mail job is now done - its a BIG list and the mails are
> dribbled out by our automated system to help avoid triggering 
> automated SPAM
> filters). The small number of people who Unsubscribed in response to
> Conference Bulletin #1 (sent March 11) will not receive this email. 
> Any of
> you who do not want to receive future Conference Bulletins from 
> Coho/US, can
> also just open today's or any future Conference Bulletin mail and 
> click the
> Unsubscribe link at the bottom of the email.
>
> This model is being used for all mailings from Coho/US. We really 
> don't want
> to annoy people with information they don't want to receive - it 
> wastes your
> valuable attention, and doing this lowers our value to you. As time 
> goes on,
> we'll also give you all the ability to visit your individual profile 
> to make
> changes about what you do receive from us - currently, all you can do 
> is say
> either (1) stop sending me emails of this type = "Unsubscribe" or (2) 
> stop
> sending me emails of any kind = "Opt Out" - you can take either of 
> these
> actions using the links at the bottom of every email that we send.
>
> Thanks for your ongoing attention and support - and hope to see you in
> Boston on June 12 (have I mentioned we're having a National Cohousing
> Conference?)
>
> Craig Ragland
>
> Coho/US executive director
> http://www.cohousing.org
> craig [at] cohousing.org
>
> New Earth Song project manager
> http://www.NewEarthSong.com
> craig [at] newearthsong.com
>
> Songaia Cohousing member
> http://www.Songaia.com
> craig [at] songaia.com
>
> Please try email first, include your phone number (w/time zone) - or 
> give me
> a call: 425-487-3550 (Pacific)... communicate!
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