Re: Low cost housing | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Brian Bartholomew (bb![]() |
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 11:33:18 -0700 (PDT) |
> If you want to get houses built, you'll have to [...] engagement > with the folks who make the rules. Naah. We tried that, and it quite decisively failed. Details are below. A major goal of ours was low cost, so the communities now building at hundreds of thousands per are not counterexamples. When our group was trying to understand a building budget, we talked to two coho-ish developments in the area, an older one which built about 20 years ago, and a newer one which built about 5 years ago. I'll call the older one "First" and the newer one "Second". First was self-developed. Second was designed in conscious imitation of First. First told Second that Second couldn't repeat First's experience, the zoning had been tightened to ban it. We designed in conscious imitation of Second. Second told us we couldn't repeat their experience, the zoning had been tightened to ban it. In order to get some numbers on the current zoning situation, we looked around for the cheapest 30-unit development which had been built in the last 2 years. We found a development of packed shoeboxes on a field of concrete, nothing we would ever want. They were $160K/unit. The cheapest development permitted was already higher than our maximum price! We didn't understand what went into that price, and we thought there might be developer work that we could do ourselves. As I described in previous messages, we were wrong. In the Katrina-ravaged area, people are trying to get out of FEMA trailers and into Katrina cottages, but the cottages are being blocked by zoning. If I tried to write that as a parody of zoning, no one would believe me. It's too extreme. Yet, it's a current event fact: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90037639 [...] At a Gulfport, Miss., staging area, dozens of cottages stand like pastel perennials sprung from a gravel lot. Johnson says many storm survivors wanted a cottage but couldn't get one. Cities and towns erected a maze of permitting requirements. Communities feared today's temporary cottages would end up tomorrow's neighborhood blight. [...] And the state plans to take her cottage back in a year. [...] "It's been almost three years now, and you would think that people would be on their feet, but it's like you keep trying and trying and can't get anywhere," Acosta says. When you defend zoning, this is what you defend. There is another wave of Adjustable Rate Mortgage (ARM) interest rate resets coming. These affect the middle class, not subprime. When these people get evicted from their houses, they are going to live somewhere. I expect these living situations will include: a rented room that violates the maximum unrelated adults under one roof; a camper in someone's backyard; an architecturally unreviewed house addition; a trailer plopped on a two acre unapproved subdivide and patched into services. All contrary to the intent of zoning. Actuarial bankruptcy means social security will shrink drastically in real terms. As it shrinks, aging parents will have an even greater need for inexpensive housing, with close access to family for care. That's the granny flat in the backyard, which has carefully been almost entirely banned. Maybe granny is a "hazardous use"?: http://www.caring.com/articles/echo-housing-backyard-cottages [...] Getting approval for an ECHO can be a Herculean task. Zoning departments tend to frown on the idea, and neighborhood associations sometimes fear that ECHOs compromise the quality of the neighborhood by attracting renters and creating a higher density environment. Some even consider ECHOs eyesores. Although manufactured housing has improved in recent years, and newer styles include attractive touches like rounded sheet rock and tiled roofs, these inexpensive units sometimes look more like trailer homes. "Each city has a different take on zoning," says Bob Clay, who sells ECHOs senior housing units through www.grannyflats.net. "But typically you need to have side yard clearance, you can't face a busy street, and you can't convert the two properties to condos and sell the granny flat separately." Some zoning departments stipulate that the unit can only be used for a family member. [...] Zoning is headed for the compliance and respect that Interstate speed limits had in the 1970's. Brian
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