Re: A Conversation on the Economic Crisis: How To Do It? | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Dirk Herr-Hoyman (hoymand![]() |
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 06:32:22 -0700 (PDT) |
Since I'm not able to attend this teleconference, let me offer a few
points
on what's happening here at Arboretum Cohousing in Madison WI. Somehow, we managed to weather the financial storm (not to mention the worst winter in 100 years) to create a 40 home community. We are seen as the most successful condo style project in the Madison area this year. When I say to someone in local real estate that we are at 95% sold before movein, jaws drop. All around us are condos at 5-50% sold. Of course, we have a different product, it's not just a house you are buying, it's a community. Our banker has been saying recently that we are the best thing in hisloan portfolio. He's got condo projects all over the state, which are not moving all that well. Initially, we were seen as a fair sized risk within
his bank and the local banking community. Now we are seen as a high performing asset. We are currently in the Closing stage, where we find out if our members can truly find the financial means to join the community. Many have been able to close just fine, some didn't need to sell homes. However, there have been some with challenges in selling their homes. We've done some self-help within the community, staging and cleaning for example, as well as talking about what does and doesn't work. Evenwith that help, some are still having trouble selling their existing homes.
We have devised a Land Contract, which our lender has approved, with mildly generous terms for these home owners. This allows for sharing of holding costs and keeps committed members in the community who have been thrown a curveball by the current housing market. The Land Contract is only a short term measure, though, and for the folks doing it it means they are holding 2 properties for a time. For those with newly forming cohousing projects, this may well be a time to have some patience. If you have land, as the Dover group does, perhaps you go to your lender and renegotiate terms. Internally, see if you can structure something so those you take some financial risk nowget a better deal later. This may be a relatively small group, yet having a few that are willing to take this sort of risk and weather the storm will put you in great shape when things get better. It is, though, about taking some risk. If you can do this, you have something to offer banks, potential
members, contractors, and so on. Everyone is looking for who is goingto take that big risk at the center. This may take several months or even
a year or so, it's somewhat like doing a big fundraising campaign. At the same time, you should hone your vision and look at how you market your community. Work on your web site, either create one from scratchor hone the one you already have going, as this is the #1 way your potential
buyers will find out about your community, as well as potential lenders.End of the day, this is about managing your risk. You don't get big rewards
without taking risks... --Dirk On Oct 8, 2008, at 7:55 AM, Bob Morrison wrote:
I think we need to have this teleconference or webinar within the next 2 1/2 weeks and that we shouldn't wait until after the elections. I agree thatwe will need to have several sessions to properly discuss this. We can schedule the second session for after the elections.I am in a forming cohousing group that has land but has not yet begun construction. The economic crisis has had a major effect on us, that is, we're having a hard time getting a construction loan and we're having a realhard time recruiting members. We have lots of hangers-on, but few are willing to make a financial commitment. The two biggest issues thatprospective members cite is the fear that they will have a hard time gettinga mortgage and the fear that they will have a hard time selling theirexisting homes and/or will have to sell them at a fire-sale price when the project is finished. (The projected completion date is early next summer.)I also sense that this crisis will discourage people from forming new groups over the next year or so. Many people are counting on new groupsforming, because they would like to live in cohousing and none of theexisting or forming groups are in a location that is feasible for them. Weshould discuss this at a future teleconference or webinar. A lot of what we discussed at the national conference last summer isalready out of date, because of what has happened with the economic crisisover the last two months. Bob Morrison Dover, NH _________________________________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/
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