Cohousing-L Mailing List: Re: FIRST POST Questions and sort of statement

[James Kacki (jimkacki]

Hi WT,
All the seven principles are obviously based on a lot of thought and  
a commitment to doing the right thing for the planet and  for your  
community.  However, honestly,  the tone of the way the 'principles'  
are worded makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.  The tone  
seems dogmatic in the extreme.   I can imagine the person who wrote  
those words getting really angry about anyone in the community who  
deviated in their lifestyle or actions from the writers intentions.   
I personally would stay far away from a community that had such a  
dogmatic set of principles, worded that way.  Each one of us is  
different and 'community' is by its nature made up of people with  
different attitudes and ideas.  Of course, there has to be some  
common bond or understanding by all the individuals in order to make  
the community thrive, but my advice would be to keep your intent, but  
relax a little in the framing of the  statement of principles.
Just one persons opinion.  I'd be interested to hear what others think.
James

On 1-Sep-10, at 1:16 PM, Gerald Manata wrote:

> A lot of this stuff sounds good, but I  question number 7. Are you  
> talking about
> anarchy here? How can that work? You are building what will be a legal
> condominium. You will be legally required to have a huge amount of  
> rules in your
> CC&R's.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Wayne Tyson <landrest [at] cox.net>
> To: Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org
> Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 4:08:38 PM
> Subject: [C-L]_ FIRST POST Questions and sort of statement
>
>
> Honorable Forum:
>
> I am and long have been interested in the subject of co-housing and  
> related
> matters, and have read "all" the informational material I could  
> "find."
>
>
> I am especially interested in building upon the ideas and  
> experience of others,
> and will always welcome all kinds of responses to my questions and  
> ideas.
>
>
> At present, I am investigating the possibility of developing a  
> variation on the
> themes I have investigated, both theoretically and actually. We  
> plan to
> investigate Oregon for possible sites in early September, 2010. We  
> expect our
> "project" to be rural, but near towns and cities; we expect that it  
> will take
> years, if not generations, for the transistional process to occur.
>
>
> I would appreciate any tips regarding legal procedures (zoning,  
> changes,
> building codes, requirements for establishing a town) and obstacles  
> (how to
> overcome them or the feasibility of overcoming them).
>
>
> Here is a brief description of the something of the sort of  
> alternative
> community we are exploring.
>
>
> 1. Facilitating trends toward reconciling the needs and works of  
> humankind with
> those of the earth and its life.
>
>
> 2. Diversity and integration of skills, personalities and lives.
>
> 3. Concept of "frugal luxury" and adequacy in all aspects of  
> fulfilling life
> potential--an alternative to both poverty and greed.
>
>
> 4. Trends away from egocentrism as a presumed normal function of  
> cooperation
> rather than intentional displacement-competition.
>
>
> 5. Leaving the land and its life alone as much as possible,  
> integrating with
> nature, in the sense of staying within the energy/nutrient cycle as  
> much as
> possible, but without pressure for rapid change--gradual transitional
> transformation, but complete tolerance of all versions and degrees  
> and rates of
> such a process without active peer pressure or other coercion.
>
>
> 6. Innovative, original, efficient ways of providing sustenance and  
> comfort such
> as through highly functional, economical architecture rather than  
> aesthetic
> style.
>
>
> 7. No rules, and no rules about no rules. Deception and other  
> manipulation
> simply will not work because of the nature of the citizens.  
> Dominance is not
> concentrated, but shifts according to context.
>
>
> These are thoughts quite open for discussion, and we welcome other  
> thoughts and
> discussion on the implied specifics. Each of these "topics"  
> probably have an
> infinite number of subsets, and we welcome all kinds of comments  
> and suggestions
> as we cycle through our learning/understanding process.
>
>
> Thank you for your responses and for allowing me to participate.  
> Specific
> suggestions about modifications to this brief list are especially  
> welcome.
>
>
> WT
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