Pets, Cats, Common Agreements [ Was Maintaining the conversation] | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Sharon Villines (sharon![]() |
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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:17:39 -0700 (PDT) |
On 27 Jun 2011, at 8:42 AM, Ruth Hirsch wrote: > These have been two big and important topics: CH use, and pets/dogs. Please > do write how your communities are doing on these, or even on the current one: > dogs-- actually, we have neighbors with concerns about cats doing in song > birds, so if you have any cat policy, pleas do tell. Keeping the conversation focused on the aims of cohousing, actual practices, and actual research I think will ground the conversation in helpful discussion of these issues. Many thanks to Ruth for returning us to sanity. Before we moved in people were talking about having cat boxes in the CH and how nice it would be to have all the cats playing there. I was not on site yet and I asked how many cats there were. I don't remember the exact number but it was something like 15 in 43 households. There was no more talk of cats in the CH. We have residents who are violently allergic to cats so aside from the sheer numbers making cats in the CH unwieldy, the desire to have a safe environment for everyone has meant no cats in the CH. Confusing the issue, however, is that we have two cats that are of a breed known not to trigger allergies. Lines wanted to be crossed and confused. Similarly with dogs since we have a service dog in the CH regularly. Some pet owners are singularly militant that their pets are equal to children and two would allow their pets to run through the CH when they thought no one was around. For many years we had no outdoor cats. We grandfathered 2-3 when we moved in but they moved out and we never wrote down the policy. One person had two that roamed only on her front corridor. Some of us were shocked when two households moved in with free roaming outdoor cats and we suddenly had three all over the place again. Pooping in our gardens and window boxes and digging so bulbs were exposed (and dead). Fur on bushes and balconies. We guarded the bird's nests we knew about. "We never had any such agreement!" was the selling homeowner's and the Admin Team's excuse for allowing them. People have very short memories. Veeeeeeeery short. I sometimes wonder if cohousers are characterized by unusually short memories. Maybe it's what allows us to venture forward in cohousing. Remember those people who don't come to meetings? They don't read the minutes either. No agreements ever exist for them. You have to write it down in a place where you can find it and where it is clearly stated as a policy. And give them no space around "but I didn't know" implying that therefore it doesn't apply to them. Ignorance is not only bliss, it is innocence. New people, of course, know only what is written down and accessible. They also feel tricked and betrayed when they stumble on things that "everyone" knows except them them. No writing crucial things like pet expectations down isn't fair to them either. We now have a written policy, no outdoor cats. We've grandfathered in the ones we have, by name. I had to make my consent contingent on the names and unit numbers being recorded — people wanted to go with "We know who they are" even after we had just experienced another instance of clearly not knowing. I wanted the names and unit numbers appended to the policy but succeeded only in getting them inserted into the minutes along with the record of consent. The reason for the names and unit numbers is that with such short memories in 5 years we would be back where we started with discussions of which cat was here when and whether this or that was fair to which or what cat. And whose feelings would be hurt. Such a list protects people both ways. If Pepper and Salt who only occasionally go out were not listed as outdoor cats, someone could maintain in 2 years that the homeowner had "suddenly" let them out violating the agreement. This all sounds needlessly complicated but it is as simple as all other things in cohousing. This is my private space and this is what I can do there without affecting your private space or our common space. This is our common space and this is what each of us can do there that allows us to share it equally without affecting the private space of another or preventing them from equal access to common space. That seems to change every 5-10 years as children grow, adults age, and households turn over. Write it down and review it. We don't. In my opinion, because we are so busy dealing with the effects of not having written agreements when we started. Sharon ---- Sharon Villines Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC http://www.takomavillage.org
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Maintaining the conversation Ruth Hirsch, June 27 2011
- Re: Maintaining the conversation Joanie Connors, June 27 2011
- Re: Dog in community was [Maintaining the conversation] Nancy Baumeister, June 27 2011
- Pets, Cats, Common Agreements [ Was Maintaining the conversation] Sharon Villines, June 27 2011
- Re: Pets, Cats, Common Agreements [ Was Maintaining the conversation] Ingram Paperny, June 27 2011
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