Re: Annual budget increases & capital improvements | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Peter Orbeton (peter.orbeton![]() |
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Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:33:05 -0800 (PST) |
Very good advice about the decision-making process. I'm wondering if you've tried working from a prioritized list of capital projects with the priority setting exercise entirely separate? For 2012 NNF decided to fund about $3K over seven years to build another shed/garage, and a wonderful local bank would consider making a commercial loan available to us so we can have it built sooner rather than later. This though was a specific amount for obviously a specific purpose. I can envision (or rather would like) having multiple capital improvement projects underway at once so there isn't say a seven-year gap between projects. We're also looking at issuing promissory notes to residents to reduce borrowing costs, however, money is so 'cheap' these days, a bank loan wouldn't be prohibitively expensive anyway. So we have a lot to figure out as far as capital improvements are concerned - funding amount, financing, decision-making process, project pipeline process, etc. Peter Orbeton Treasurer, Nubanusit Neighborhood & Farm<http://www.peterboroughcohousing.org> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Holly McNutt <holly.mcnutt [at] gmail.com>wrote: > > Hi Peter, > Here at Nyland, our financial folks (FINBOD) have done a great job with > the budget process. I can put you in touch with one of them. The CI > question interests me and I hope other people will reply. Our community is > 20 years old and puts money every year into a Cap Imp fund. In the early > days, I am told, there were so many cool projects that people wanted to do > that early in each year, people were asked to come up with ideas and the > community would decide early in the year which ones to focus on. That > system fell by the wayside, and now we have a lot of money and a rather > unclear and challenging process to tap into it. And because of that, > people who would like to bring an idea forward are often hesitant to do so > because it is so hard to pass a proposal that uses Cap Imp money. One can > end up putting a lot of time and energy into something only to have it > blocked all too easily IMO by a very small minority. Attempts have been > made to streamline the process, but in the end it comes down to having a > really good decision-making process that allows projects to move forward > without 100% consensus. So we continue to put about $3000 per year for our > annual budget into this account and my hope is that someday we will be able > to move forward on some really cool projects. My advice would be, if and > when you set up a Cap Imp fund, have a really clear and simple process in > place first to determine who to use that money to fund proposals. > - Holly > > > On Feb 17, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Peter Orbeton wrote: > > > > > Nubanusit Neighborhood & Farm is a relatively young cohousing community, > > and is looking to tweak the budget process. We've heard first-hand from > > residents of other coho communities who have passed through about less > > meeting-intensive processes than we have now, pre-determined annual > budget > > increases (tied to the CPI), and capital improvement funding not > > necessarily earmarked to a project. The number of meetings (and time) > spent > > with our current process is probably, we've learned, directly related to > > our newness. And because we still have development projects, we've > > experienced annual budget increases that are not sustainable. > > > > As the Treasurer, I've volunteered to gather information on other > > communities, and have plumbed the C-L archives. While suggestions on how > to > > achieve a short and painless budget process are certainly welcome, I'd > like > > to hear how annual budget increases are determined so we can model ours > for > > more predictability. Do you base it on the Consumer Price Index, > establish > > a fixed dollar figure ceiling annually, or by some other means? > > > > We have operating reserves and a reserve fund > (replacement/replenishment), > > and would like to also establish a capital improvement (CI) 'account.' > Our > > budgets to date have been line-item specific, and up until 2012, were for > > the most part not funding multi-year projects. We've heard of other > > communities with CI accounts that are tapped when a team/committee > brings a > > proposal forward, and are funded annually based on a pre-determined > amount. > > So, my questions on this topic are do you have a CI account, how is that > > account funded, what is the process for withdrawing from it. > > > > I'll take responses directly if you would prefer. Based on the > responses, I > > may post a summary as well. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Regards, > > Peter Orbeton > > Treasurer, Nubanusit Neighborhood & Farm > > http://www.peterboroughcohousing.org > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > > http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ > > > -- Nubanusit Neighborhood & Farm http://www.peterboroughcohousing.org
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Annual budget increases & capital improvements Peter Orbeton, February 17 2012
- Re: Annual budget increases & capital improvements R Philip Dowds, February 18 2012
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Re: Annual budget increases & capital improvements Holly McNutt, February 18 2012
- Re: Annual budget increases & capital improvements Peter Orbeton, February 21 2012
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Re: Annual budget increases & capital improvements Sharon Villines, February 19 2012
- Re: Annual budget increases & capital improvements Peter Orbeton, February 21 2012
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Re: Annual budget increases & capital improvements Katie Henry, February 19 2012
- Re: Annual budget increases & capital improvements Sharon Villines, February 20 2012
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