Cohousing-L Mailing List: Re: Co-Living Survey

[Lynne MARKELL (lmarkell]

Totally inappropriate as the features for a co-living commercial building are 
very different from features in a cohousing community.
Obviously doesn't know the field very well.

Lynne Markell, 
Lmarkell [at] rogers.com
(613) 842-5222



> On Mar 7, 2020, at 2:37 PM, Fiona Frank <fionafrank [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I asked him who ‘we’ is and he replied :
> 
> “We are ux designers from general assembly in New York. We are designing an
> app for the launch of a national Co living company and we want to make sure
> we add the features that users want.
> 
> Thanks”
> 
> Hmmm!
> Dwayne
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020, 10:34 AM Fiona Frank <fionafrank [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> What is your team?
> 
> 
>> On Saturday, 7 March 2020, Ann Zabaldo <zabaldo [at] earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you Raines for your quick response to this query from Dwayne.
>> Speaking for myself, — and I am unanimous in this.. :-) —after years
>> working in the Cohousing field I assume everybody is coming from the same
>> place I am i.e. sharing information of all kinds.  When a cohousing
>> community is built everyone benefits — i’m all for that whoever is building
>> it.
>> 
>> And ... there are people and institutions out there in the world that
>> would take advantage of the blood sweat and tears (lots of tears...) we’ve
>> put into this movement.
>> 
>> So Raines… I am really glad you asked the questions that you did. I also
>> like the way you characterized this listserv. And, if Dwayne or anyone else
>> falls within our loosely defined organizational standards I trust we will
>> support them and their queries as we do everyone else.
>> 
>> Ann Zabaldo
>> Takoma Village Cohousing
>> Member of the board  Mid Atlantic Cohousing
>> Washington DC
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> All tiipos ... curtesy of Siri  :-)
>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2020, at 10:19 AM, Raines Cohen <rc3-coho-L [at] raines.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Welcome to the world of cohousing, Dwayne. Nice of you to drop into our
>>> decades-long-established link for conversations about community.
>>> 
>>> However, I do need to call out a few things you've done (or neglected)
>> that
>>> don't comport with the standards for this list:
>>> 
>>> 1. You never say who the "we" is - in your message or on the form. A
>>> startup? A think tank? An established business in the space? A
>> consultancy
>>> serving one or more? Based where? With any background in particular
>>> communities? We are a conversational community, and we have more
>>> meaningful conversations when we have context for where your questions
>> are
>>> coming from and what overlaps.
>>> 
>>> 2. Cohousing is shared neighborhoods with separate private homes, most
>>> often in a condo homeownership model. The example you link to, and the
>> term
>>> "co-living" (often as a hashtag without the hyphen), are shared homes
>> with
>>> private or shared rooms, with shared facilities. Closer to boarding
>> houses.
>>> Very different in nature, and I rather suspect that any answers we
>> provide
>>> will be like comparing apples and oranges if you're trying to aggregate
>>> data.
>>> 
>>> 3. The form says the data will only be used for "research," but doesn't
>>> identify what sort, who will have access to it, whether the required
>> email
>>> address and other Personally Identifiable Information will be linked to
>>> responses, the sort of things that are required to be disclosed in
>> academic
>>> human-subjects research supervision, and are slowly starting to be
>> required
>>> in marketing in some states and countries. If you truly want to learn
>> from
>>> established data about the cohousing world, please engage with the
>>> Cohousing Research Network - part of their mission is to provide a single
>>> shared repository of data so we all aren't answering the same basic
>>> questions over and over again for every student working on a project.
>>> 
>>> I note that by the final page of the survey, several screens in, you ask
>>> whether the respondent is willing to be contacted for an interview or
>> 30-45
>>> minute call. So it sounds like this is an intake form for market research
>>> panels, and it might be better for folks to know that before they start
>>> filling it out.
>>> 
>>> Nice of you to pop in, but if you want true engagement with our community
>>> of communities, please meet us with actual dialog and conversation and
>>> context. As it is, I can't recommend that our 5000+ East Bay Cohousing
>>> members, or others on this list, respond.
>>> 
>>> Raines Cohen, Cohousing Coach
>>> East Bay Cohousing / Cohousing CA
>>> right now more focused on how to keep our communities safe and accessible
>>> for all - see the WebChats scheduled for the next two weeks
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 8:08 PM Dwayne McFarlane <dwaine18 [at] gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> My team would like to interview individuals or couples that currently
>> live
>>>> in co-living or community themed housings - Think common.com. If you
>> can
>>>> help, please take the quick screener survey linked below.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Dwayne
>>>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf-f9W_
>> AeQFiSCHKjSr67LCpX64L7VwC5LADoFRtgr0-FD-pQ/viewform
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