Cohousing-L Mailing List: Re: Co-Living Survey

[Mac Thomson (macthomson]

The world needs more community. Cohousing is just one strategy. If Dwayne can 
learn something from cohousers to foster community in a different realm, I’m 
all for it. We’re all in this together.

-- 
Mac Thomson

Heartwood Cohousing
Southwest Colorado
http://www.heartwoodcohousing.com


"The quality of a man's life is in direct proportion to his commitment to 
excellence whatever his chosen field or endeavor.''
           - Vince Lombardi
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> On Mar 8, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Graham Freeman via Cohousing-L <cohousing-l [at] 
> cohousing.org> wrote:
> 
> And yet, he's asking questions in order to get to know this better.
> 
> This strong negative response to a newcomer who is seeking to gain
> knowledge is offputting. It resembles the NIMBYism typically seen on
> Nextdoor.
> 
> I think a bit of inclusion, and assuming good intentions, wouldn't hurt.
> 
> Graham
> 
> 
> On Sun, 8 Mar 2020 at 09:47, Lynne MARKELL <lmarkell [at] rogers.com> wrote:
> 
>> Totally inappropriate as the features for a co-living commercial building
>> are very different from features in a cohousing community.
>> Obviously doesn't know the field very well.
>> 
>> Lynne Markell,
>> Lmarkell [at] rogers.com
>> (613) 842-5222
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2020, at 2:37 PM, Fiona Frank <fionafrank [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I asked him who ‘we’ is and he replied :
>>> 
>>> “We are ux designers from general assembly in New York. We are designing
>> an
>>> app for the launch of a national Co living company and we want to make
>> sure
>>> we add the features that users want.
>>> 
>>> Thanks”
>>> 
>>> Hmmm!
>>> Dwayne
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020, 10:34 AM Fiona Frank <fionafrank [at] gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> What is your team?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Saturday, 7 March 2020, Ann Zabaldo <zabaldo [at] earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you Raines for your quick response to this query from Dwayne.
>>>> Speaking for myself, — and I am unanimous in this.. :-) —after years
>>>> working in the Cohousing field I assume everybody is coming from the
>> same
>>>> place I am i.e. sharing information of all kinds.  When a cohousing
>>>> community is built everyone benefits — i’m all for that whoever is
>> building
>>>> it.
>>>> 
>>>> And ... there are people and institutions out there in the world that
>>>> would take advantage of the blood sweat and tears (lots of tears...)
>> we’ve
>>>> put into this movement.
>>>> 
>>>> So Raines… I am really glad you asked the questions that you did. I also
>>>> like the way you characterized this listserv. And, if Dwayne or anyone
>> else
>>>> falls within our loosely defined organizational standards I trust we
>> will
>>>> support them and their queries as we do everyone else.
>>>> 
>>>> Ann Zabaldo
>>>> Takoma Village Cohousing
>>>> Member of the board  Mid Atlantic Cohousing
>>>> Washington DC
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> All tiipos ... curtesy of Siri  :-)
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 7, 2020, at 10:19 AM, Raines Cohen <rc3-coho-L [at] raines.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Welcome to the world of cohousing, Dwayne. Nice of you to drop into
>> our
>>>>> decades-long-established link for conversations about community.
>>>>> 
>>>>> However, I do need to call out a few things you've done (or neglected)
>>>> that
>>>>> don't comport with the standards for this list:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. You never say who the "we" is - in your message or on the form. A
>>>>> startup? A think tank? An established business in the space? A
>>>> consultancy
>>>>> serving one or more? Based where? With any background in particular
>>>>> communities? We are a conversational community, and we have more
>>>>> meaningful conversations when we have context for where your questions
>>>> are
>>>>> coming from and what overlaps.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2. Cohousing is shared neighborhoods with separate private homes, most
>>>>> often in a condo homeownership model. The example you link to, and the
>>>> term
>>>>> "co-living" (often as a hashtag without the hyphen), are shared homes
>>>> with
>>>>> private or shared rooms, with shared facilities. Closer to boarding
>>>> houses.
>>>>> Very different in nature, and I rather suspect that any answers we
>>>> provide
>>>>> will be like comparing apples and oranges if you're trying to aggregate
>>>>> data.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3. The form says the data will only be used for "research," but doesn't
>>>>> identify what sort, who will have access to it, whether the required
>>>> email
>>>>> address and other Personally Identifiable Information will be linked to
>>>>> responses, the sort of things that are required to be disclosed in
>>>> academic
>>>>> human-subjects research supervision, and are slowly starting to be
>>>> required
>>>>> in marketing in some states and countries. If you truly want to learn
>>>> from
>>>>> established data about the cohousing world, please engage with the
>>>>> Cohousing Research Network - part of their mission is to provide a
>> single
>>>>> shared repository of data so we all aren't answering the same basic
>>>>> questions over and over again for every student working on a project.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I note that by the final page of the survey, several screens in, you
>> ask
>>>>> whether the respondent is willing to be contacted for an interview or
>>>> 30-45
>>>>> minute call. So it sounds like this is an intake form for market
>> research
>>>>> panels, and it might be better for folks to know that before they start
>>>>> filling it out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nice of you to pop in, but if you want true engagement with our
>> community
>>>>> of communities, please meet us with actual dialog and conversation and
>>>>> context. As it is, I can't recommend that our 5000+ East Bay Cohousing
>>>>> members, or others on this list, respond.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Raines Cohen, Cohousing Coach
>>>>> East Bay Cohousing / Cohousing CA
>>>>> right now more focused on how to keep our communities safe and
>> accessible
>>>>> for all - see the WebChats scheduled for the next two weeks
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 8:08 PM Dwayne McFarlane <dwaine18 [at] 
>>>>>>> gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>> My team would like to interview individuals or couples that currently
>>>> live
>>>>>> in co-living or community themed housings - Think common.com. If you
>>>> can
>>>>>> help, please take the quick screener survey linked below.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Dwayne
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf-f9W_
>>>> AeQFiSCHKjSr67LCpX64L7VwC5LADoFRtgr0-FD-pQ/viewform
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