Re: Voluntary Community Participation? | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Kathleen Lowry (kathleenlowrylpcclmft![]() |
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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2023 16:38:04 -0800 (PST) |
Joyce, thank you. Yes I wonder about pay rather work creating a sense of a class system? That would certainly not be recommended for families-our time is equally important. But it doesn’t seem to bother you all that much? You who do contribute probably have some fun? Enforcement- yes a problem. If it were me, I’d want people to an agreement when coming in (not uncommon practice in couples therapy) but I imagine it would make membership recruitment harder. Kathleen > On Jan 4, 2023, at 11:46 AM, Joyce Cheney <jcheneyjc [at] gmail.com> wrote: > > The wonderful, dedicated idealists who started our community created, a > structure where work is not REQUIRED. They created a structure where work was > not even EXPECTED in an “unwritten-rule way.” Work participation WAS ASSUMED > in the sense that everybody would just want to work together wouldn’t they?? > 20 years later, we HOPE that people will work to support and be part of the > community, but there’s still has no requirement or even expectation. We > invite and encourage people to participate; that’s it. > We understand that condo associations can’t require work legally, but some of > us (not all!) believe that not even having an expectation of work is a major > flaw in our cohousing design. From @55 madult residents, the same 15 people > do most everything. Several adults’ participation is zero. > We read of some cohousing communities that require 4-10 hrs of work per month > - or hefty amounts of pay per hr ($35-40) - and wonder how they can do that > legally, and wonder who the collection police are! > Beyond those tough logistics, that sounds > Fair. > Note: I am speaking for myself, not for the cohousing Community, in which I > live. > Our community move-in was 20 years ago; I’ve been here six.. Jc > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 4, 2023, at 7:41 AM, Kathleen Lowry <kathleenlowrylpcclmft [at] >> gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Ed and others: To repeat my lost email and comment: (My apologies.) >> >> I am a deeply and broadly trained couples and family therapist who follows >> in part the work of Alfred Adler (equal in importance to Freud and Jung). >> Adler’s emphasis was on community, families and parenting. He said teaching >> cooperation and social interest is the primary parenting role, and primary >> predictors of mental health. >> >> Adler also famously said: “ There is harmony only among equals. “ >> >> We aren’t in my view born “sinful”but most of us have to be carefully taught >> by caregivers or others to cooperate and pitch in. >> >> Equality of time and effort is considered essential to a happy partnership >> and healthy families, that is, equality of play time, self-care time etc. >> and contribution time. For example, kids contribute by doing what they are >> capable of, (by age 4 or younger they can load the clothes washer) and >> grandparents might contribute by representing the family as a reading tutor >> in a school setting. >> >> Adler also said “spoiled children grow into angry adults” so even those not >> expected to contribute equally become resentful (and inevitably less >> respected) as well. (Very possibly not consciously.) >> >> This is rich ground for growth in couples and families. >> >> For example, food coops have been good examples of the Little Red Hen >> philosophy. >> >> I’d love to hear what various communities are doing in this regard (sense >> of equality) and how it’s working-how it affects the community spirit and >> experience of trust and joy in community. >> >> For all I know the above re Adler doesn’t apply to communities at all. >> Thanks. >> Kathleen >> >> >> >> >>>> On Jan 4, 2023, at 6:11 AM, Ed Sutton via Cohousing-L <cohousing-l [at] >>>> cohousing.org> wrote: >>> >>> Eno Commons’ founding principles include “voluntary participation,” i.e. >>> no one is required to participate in the work of caring for the community, >>> and there is no penalty for non-participation. >>> >>> Our low HOA dues were established with an assumption of a high level of >>> resident care work.The small group of neighbors who are struggling to care >>> for common property are questioning the wisdom of continuing this >>> arrangement. >>> >>> Are there any other co-housing communities successfully operating after 25 >>> years of laissez-faire resident participation? >>> >>> Ed Sutton >>> Eno Commons >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: >>> http://L.cohousing.org/info >>> >>> >>> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: >> http://L.cohousing.org/info >> >> >> > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://L.cohousing.org/info > > >
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