Re: Cohousing-L Digest, Vol 252, Issue 19
From: Gina Sharar (gshararmac.com)
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2025 07:53:02 -0800 (PST)
Thank you, Fred, for posting the notice about Prairie Hill in today’s cohousing 
listserv. I notice it says we have 2 units for sale which is true, but the 800 
SF one is NOT for sale, but instead a 964 SF unit is for sale at $369k. The 
1290 SF one at $410k is correctly shown. Once we get details about both 
available units (with photos), we’ll post again. It’s up to each owner to be 
providing that information so we’ll be waiting on them. 

Also, thank you for the very useful email you sent me yesterday about posting 
on the listserv. 

Stay in touch! 

Gina Sharar

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>   1. Front Porch Activities (Joel Bartlett)
>   2. Outreach video / intro video / 2 units for sale PHC, Iowa
>      City (Fred H Olson)
>   3. Re: Fire - RE: Cohousing-L Digest, Vol 252, Issue 14
>      (R Philip Dowds)
>   4. Flood Plains in Florida (Sharon Villines)
>   5. Re: Front Porch Activities (Elizabeth Magill)
>   6. Re: Climate Change and fires (Sharon Villines)
>   7. making cohousing affordable (Diane)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2025 08:53:22 -0500
> From: Joel Bartlett <altairecovillage [at] gmail.com>
> To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
> Cc: Joel Bartlett <altairecovillage [at] gmail.com>, Margo Ketchum
>       <margo.ketchum [at] gmail.com>
> Subject: [C-L]_ Front Porch Activities
> Message-ID:
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> Dear Friends,
> 
> Some of the research shows that Cohousing groups are active in the larger
> community out of proportion to that of  other types of developments.  We're
> working with the Study Group 1 material and Front Porch conversations, and
> would like to know...
> 
> -what activities does your Cohousing neighborhood do with the neighbors?
> -which NGO's or Voluntary Associations (to use the sociological term) are
> your Members engaged with?
> -are there specifically non-profits your community or Members actively
> support?
> -any Common House activities you invite the surrounding community to?
> -other aspects of your community - trails, community gardens, bicycle
> repair, etc. that you invite the public to?
> 
> This is also a very relevant conversation with respect to the 501c4
> Association tax-exempt status, because in Part III of the application, it
> is essential to say that the community is not gated, but open (in many
> respects) to the public.  Plain and simple, the tax exemption cannot simply
> benefit just the Members of the Cohousing group.
> 
> Thank you for your contribution to what we hope will be a lively discussion!
> 
> Yours,
> Joel Bartlett, R/A
> Project Manager for the Members
> www.altairecovillage.org
> 610-220-6172
> 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2025 08:29:38 -0600 (CST)
> From: Fred H Olson <fholson [at] cohousing.org>
> To: Cohousing-L mailing list <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
> Subject: [C-L]_ Outreach video / intro video / 2 units for sale PHC,
>       Iowa City
> Message-ID: <25e19764-92a5-d651-b833-c4526b82d928 [at] cohousing.org>
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> 
> Cecile Goding of  Prairie Hill Cohousing's Community Outreach Circle
> is the author of the message below.  It was posted by Fred of
> the Cohousing-L management team <cohousing-l-owner [at] cohousing.org>
> after considerable editing by Fred at Cecile's request.
> 
> --------------------  FORWARDED MESSAGE FOLLOWS --------------------
> 
> Prairie Hill's annual Jamboree was created to collaborate and
> socialize with the 500+ neighbors all around us. It is held in
> September in the Benton Hill Park adjacent to Prairie Hill Cohousing
> with neighborhood groups.
> 
> This outreach event was made possible with grants from the City of
> Iowa City, the nonprofit RSFIC, and many community volunteers. Watch
> our short video:
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/12I6j9lXnXsIzfb6W--ebbrTmGVLYQKwq/view?ts=67816b2e
> 
> Cecile Goding, Prairie Hill Cohousing's Community Outreach Circle
> 
> ------ Intro video / web site ---------
> 
> Prairie Hill Cohousing's (PHC) web site at
> https://www.prairiehillcoho.org
> has a 7.5 minute video that is a good introduction to cohousing and to PHC.
> 
> --------- Unit for sale ---------
> 
> PHC has 2 Units for Sale
> Current Units for Sale:
> 
> 800 square foot, (2 br, 1 bath) $350,000
> 
> 1290 square foot, (2 br, 2 bath) $410,000
> 
> 
> See details at https://www.prairiehillcoho.org/resale-properties
> (or via "More" link in upper right of main web page)
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 10:26:24 -0500
> From: R Philip Dowds <rphilipdowds [at] me.com>
> To: Cohousing-L <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Fire - RE: Cohousing-L Digest, Vol 252, Issue 14
> Message-ID: <5865BDB0-D627-429C-9711-6C5E77018D7D [at] me.com>
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> 
> Over-development of problematic terrain, and under-management of attendant 
> risks, are certainly problems.  So long as we?re looking to transfer risk 
> from the public at large to localities and properties making bad choices, we 
> should also consider canceling FEMA?s NFIP (National Flood Insurance 
> Program), which definitely encourages over-optimistic over-development of 
> coastal lands and flood plains.  (But this might make Mar-A-Lago uninsurable, 
> and thus is not likely to gain traction as a federal priority.)
> 
> ???????????
> Thanks,
> Philip Dowds
> Cornerstone Cohousing (28 ft above MSL <Mean Sea Level>)
> Cambridge, MA
> 
>> On Jan 23, 2025, at 3:40?PM, Kathryn McCamant <kmccamant [at] 
>> cohousing-solutions.com> wrote:
>> 
>> My community does exactly that? we have done so much fire resistance work 
>> over the last 5 years, removing fuels, and rethinking our landscaping. So 
>> glad I have a community, with much internal expertise, to work on it with.
>> 
>> Katie
>> Kathryn McCamant , President
>> CoHousing Solutions
>> www.cohousing-solutions.com 
>> <http://www.cohousing-solutions.com/><http://www.cohousing-solutions.com 
>> <http://www.cohousing-solutions.com/>>
>> 916.798.4755
>> And Nevada City Cohousing
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Cohousing-L <cohousing-l-bounces+kmccamant=cohousing-solutions.com 
>> [at] cohousing.org 
>> <mailto:cohousing-l-bounces+kmccamant=cohousing-solutions.com [at] 
>> cohousing.org>> on behalf of Ty Albright via Cohousing-L <cohousing-l [at] 
>> cohousing.org <mailto:cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>>
>> Date: Thursday, January 23, 2025 at 9:50?AM
>> To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org <mailto:cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org> 
>> <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org <mailto:cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>>
>> Cc: tmalbright [at] verizon.net <mailto:tmalbright [at] verizon.net> 
>> <tmalbright [at] verizon.net <mailto:tmalbright [at] verizon.net>>
>> Subject: [C-L]_ Fire - RE: Cohousing-L Digest, Vol 252, Issue 14
>> As a land steward / rancher - and having watched the LA fires - I'll make a
>> suggestion.
>> 
>> The fires in California are the result of poor land management - not some
>> "climate disasters".
>> 
>> Existing communities can best protect themselves by removing stuff that
>> catches on fire from their immediate area - and campaigning for their local
>> municipality to also clean up public lands / compel others to implement fire
>> safety.
>> 
>> Such things as prescribed fire on a regular basis will remove excessive fuel
>> from forest floors, dead wood can be removed and disposed on in a safe
>> centralized location (if prescribed fire is not an option) - and you should
>> consider forced removal of and banning the future planting of dangeriuos
>> tress and plants - such as Eucalyptus tress - which have flammable oil in
>> their leaves and act like a fire bomb.
>> 
>> Public policy about forest management will do much to save California -
>> unfortunately the state now suffers from many years of misguided and poor
>> management and there are lots of fires just waiting to happen.
>> 
>> 
>> Ty
>> 
>> Ty Albright Project Management
>> Little Red Hen LLC
>> 214-336-7952
>> tmalbright [at] verizon.net
>> www.linkedin.com/in/tmalbright 
>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/tmalbright><http://www.linkedin.com/in/tmalbright>
>> 
>> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2025 21:16:16 +0000
>> From: Trish Becker-Hafnor <trish [at] cohous.org>
>> To: "cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org" <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
>> Subject: [C-L]_ Seeking presenters on crisis preparedness
>> Message-ID: <129C93DF-AC30-4D19-AB37-0DB9C06C3AB8 [at] cohous.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Does your community have a solid plan for climate disasters and other
>> emergencies?
>> 
>> CohoUS is seeking members from cohousing communities to lead a 1-2 hour
>> webinar on The Cohousing Institute, sharing your community?s crisis
>> preparedness plans. This is an opportunity to support resiliency across the
>> movement in the face of climate disasters and other emergencies by helping
>> others learn from your experiences.
>> 
>> If you?re interested, please email trish [at] cohous.org.
>> 
>> Thank you for helping build stronger, safer communities!
>> 
>> Trish Becker
>> Cohousing Association of the US
>> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2025 10:07:10 -0500
> From: Sharon Villines <sharon [at] sharonvillines.com>
> To: Cohousing-L <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
> Subject: [C-L]_ Flood Plains in Florida
> Message-ID: <01B30B49-0C38-41A1-84B1-CC467C1610DF [at] sharonvillines.com>
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> 
> On Jan 25, 2025, at 10:26?AM, R Philip Dowds via Cohousing-L <cohousing-l 
> [at] cohousing.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Over-development of problematic terrain, and under-management of attendant 
>> risks, are certainly problems.  So long as we?re looking to transfer risk 
>> from the public at large to localities and properties making bad choices, we 
>> should also consider canceling FEMA?s NFIP (National Flood Insurance 
>> Program), which definitely encourages over-optimistic over-development of 
>> coastal lands and flood plains.  (But this might make Mar-A-Lago 
>> uninsurable, and thus is not likely to gain traction as a federal priority.)
> 
> An article from 2017 with a photo of projected sea levels for Mar a Lago in 
> 2100, a 10-12 ft rise. It will be all but gone.
> 
> https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-climate-change-sea-level-rise-south-florida-mar-a-lago-2017-7
> 
> 25 years ago I worked with a group trying to build cohousing in Florida (just 
> above Boca Raton). All the canals you see in housing developments there are 
> not for beauty. That?s where they dig up the dirt to raise the buildings to 
> the minimum level allowed. 
> 
> At that time, the cohousing group had property that was at 13? and the 
> minimum was 11?. 13? was considered safe. I doubt that it would be today.
> 
> Sharon
> ----
> Sharon Villines
> Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC
> http://www.takomavillage.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2025 10:12:36 -0500
> From: Elizabeth Magill <pastorlizm [at] gmail.com>
> To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
> Cc: Margo Ketchum <margo.ketchum [at] gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Front Porch Activities
> Message-ID:
>       <CAEiam=KSJ_zii22ziwdU1NY=gQfG1Ukvb8QmBaeJxoA-DFCcvw [at] 
> mail.gmail.com>
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> 
> It's an interesting question. Do communities know what their individual
> members are involved in?
> For our community of 34 households I can't imagine even trying to know such
> thing.
> Certainly churches, UU associations, synagogues, some work for the food
> pantry. We have 3 or 4 or 6 I guess in town government.
> I know there is much more, but I don't know what.
> 
> As a community I know more!
> 2/3 of our land is public conservation land with walking and horse trails.
> Some hunting. All open to the public.
> We are a big center for our town's halloween--as a rural town families love
> to come to our community for one stop trick or treating and we promote it
> widely.
> We give tours as requested and our meals are open (with pre-registration
> and a fee).
> We regularly have elected officials come hang out at meals or to give talks
> on upcoming issues.
> 
> We are not a non-profit (are other communities one???) so that part is not
> relevant.
> 
> -Liz
> (The Rev. Dr.) Elizabeth Mae Magill
> Pastor, Ashburnham Community Church
> Minister to the Affiliates, Ecclesia Ministries
> www.elizabethmaemagill.com
> 508-450-0431
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 8:54?AM Joel Bartlett <altairecovillage [at] 
> gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Dear Friends,
>> 
>> Some of the research shows that Cohousing groups are active in the larger
>> community out of proportion to that of  other types of developments.  We're
>> working with the Study Group 1 material and Front Porch conversations, and
>> would like to know...
>> 
>> -what activities does your Cohousing neighborhood do with the neighbors?
>> -which NGO's or Voluntary Associations (to use the sociological term) are
>> your Members engaged with?
>> -are there specifically non-profits your community or Members actively
>> support?
>> -any Common House activities you invite the surrounding community to?
>> -other aspects of your community - trails, community gardens, bicycle
>> repair, etc. that you invite the public to?
>> 
>> This is also a very relevant conversation with respect to the 501c4
>> Association tax-exempt status, because in Part III of the application, it
>> is essential to say that the community is not gated, but open (in many
>> respects) to the public.  Plain and simple, the tax exemption cannot simply
>> benefit just the Members of the Cohousing group.
>> 
>> Thank you for your contribution to what we hope will be a lively
>> discussion!
>> 
>> Yours,
>> Joel Bartlett, R/A
>> Project Manager for the Members
>> www.altairecovillage.org
>> 610-220-6172
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at:
>> http://L.cohousing.org/info
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2025 10:21:19 -0500
> From: Sharon Villines <sharon [at] sharonvillines.com>
> To: Cohousing-L <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Climate Change and fires
> Message-ID: <82BA15B0-0D38-4D2E-BF24-98FF8001D65A [at] sharonvillines.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset=utf-8
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2025, at 1:48?PM, Kathryn McCamant <kmccamant [at] 
>> cohousing-solutions.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Almost all of the forestland in California is owned and managed by the 
>> federal government, NOT the state of California.
> 
> For people who have never lived in the West it is hard to fathom how much 
> land is still owned by the federal government. Much of the anti-government 
> sentiment there ? not just in California but including UT, CO, etc. is caused 
> by how the government manages or doesn?t manage the land. 
> 
> There are several maps on this page that show Federal Lands managed by 9 
> different Federal Agencies. By the color coding, some states are almost 
> entirely one color or another.
> 
> https://gisgeography.com/federal-lands-united-states-map/
> 
> That?s why we still hear news reports that sound like plots for cowboy movies.
> 
> Sharon
> ----
> Sharon Villines
> Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC
> http://www.takomavillage.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2025 10:27:18 -0500
> From: Diane <dianeclaire [at] gmail.com>
> To: Cohousing-L <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
> Subject: [C-L]_ making cohousing affordable
> Message-ID:
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> 
> At Cambridge Cohousing we are exploring ways to make units affordable such
> as deed restrictions
> on price increases and an affordability fund for members and sellers to
> contribute to.  We are wondering what other communities have done.
> Diane
> -- 
> Diane Margolis
> 175 Richdale Av.
> Cambridge, MA 02140
> 617 354 1349
> 
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