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From: Kathryn Lowry (katlowry |
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| Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 17:01:13 -0700 (PDT) | |
Thank you, Sharon, for raising these questions — I think they point to something very real and important: children *are* missing from this conversation, and their voices and perspectives are too often left out of discussions that directly affect them. >From my own experience as a parent here, I can tell you that the children are not trying to “go places they’re not supposed to be.” They’re trying to exist, learn, and participate in a community that is sometimes welcoming and sometimes confusing. For example, when my child looks forward all day to media time in the Common House only to be told when he arrives that he is not allowed inside and must leave. It’s hard to overstate how bewildering that is for a young person. They internalize that inconsistency, and it teaches them less about “rules” and more about how arbitrary and contradictory adult expectations can be. I also want to address the question about whether my child is learning that “adults are wrong.” I *hope* so — at least to the extent that he learns adults, like anyone else, are fallible and that authority should not be accepted blindly. When my child expresses anxiety that he might be breaking a rule, I reassure him that questioning those rules — especially when they shift without explanation — is a sign of thoughtfulness, not defiance. That’s a value I want to instill. It’s worth asking, too, about consequences — not only for children, but for adults. My children have been scolded and even reported to authorities over subjective interpretations of “behavior” or “rules,” while I have seen little accountability for adults who create unsafe situations (such as leaving hazardous cleaning products where young children can easily access them) or who attempt to shame children for acting like children. The power imbalance here is stark: children are expected to obey perfectly, while adults often operate without reflection or consequence. I absolutely agree that shared spaces are different from private homes and that negotiation is needed. But negotiation is a two-way process. It requires adults to be willing to examine our own actions and assumptions, not just children’s. It also requires us to recognize that children are members of this community — not just guests in it — and their learning, growth, and sense of belonging depend on how we treat them and whose voices we include. I hope I have followed all formatting rules appropriately here. Using Sharon's message as exampled, I see that the act of altering the subject lines, as instructed in the listserv digest email, is less valuable than deleting all previous comments but leaving the subject easily stackable through the links. But I really have no idea if I've taken the actions necessary to follow Sharon's model. Kathryn
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