eliminating future streets through project | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Lynn Nadeau (welcome![]() |
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 19:53:33 -0600 (MDT) |
Some ideas from our experience at RoseWind Cohousing, Port Townsend WA: Eris Weaver writes of discovering that a town Master Plan has a big street right through the middle of their projected community, and how they are trying to get a variance. Check the master plan or similar documents and find if there is somewhere that they speak of the value of "non-motorized" transportation --ie pedestrians, bikes--and read it back to them. That helped us in areas where we had street rights of way through our property that we wanted to vacate*, and we showed that we were adding a number of public-access pedestrian pathways in the project, sort of in trade. Research will also turn up what the technical carrying capacity of the existing streets in the area is. In our case, it was much more than the traffic they were currently carrying, making reasonable the argument that the existing streets were sufficient, and more were not needed. "Vacating" a street right of way means getting them to let go of future rights to open it (barring Eminent Domain, which you can never avoid). In our town, if agreement can be reached that nobody present or future will need a street there, then one can buy it at a reasonable price from the City and that's that. Typically they then require that you give them back a utility-line easement on part of the width. We actually pulled off a deal where we only bought the part that they didn't need a utility easement on -- since the right of way is legally a sort of easement anyway. We saved a lot of money that way, as we were vacating about 6 blocks of streets. Anyone who is looking for land: be sure you have full understanding of what easements, street rights of way, utility access, etc are invisibly on that nice whole-looking field you have your eye on. And of course you'll need to meet local requirements for emergency vehicle access, fire truck turnarounds, sewer clean-outs and utility company access thereto.... Good luck from RoseWind, where those of us who played developer in our "spare" time learned more about city planning jargon and requirements than most of us will ever again need to know.
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