Re: Large units for people with kids | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Howard Landman (howard![]() |
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Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 15:31:02 -0600 (MDT) |
In terms of unit sizes, I'd like to argue for the concept of "and one extra large one". We had at least one family drop out because the largest unit just wasn't large enough. They had a large dog and wanted about 2 to 3 times the yardspace as normal. We couldn't give it to them. At River Rock we had A, A', B, C, and D units. What I really needed was an E unit. I originally thought we were going to have to buy two units and punch a door through the walls, but fire regulations wouldn't even allow that. So we put down deposits on two separate units. Fortunately (?!) a divorce reduced my family size from 3 adults and 3 children to 2 adults and 3 part-time children. Then we fit into a D unit. If there had been one extra large unit, I would have jumped on it. In fact we probably would have had multiple families wanting it. The general design principles of "not all the same size" "and one extra large one" should probably be in A Pattern Language, but they're not. They are metaprinciples that apply to many different things, from bedrooms, to bathroom stalls in a public place, to cabinets, to chairs. (The pattern Different Chairs is about as close as APL comes.) The drawbacks are, you can't split the architect's fee over multiple units, and the egalitarian bias of most cohousers will make them uncomfortable with the idea of someone owning "the biggest" unit. The first is not too serious because we're talking about an owner who can afford a large unit already. The second ... well, you have to judge for yourselves. Another possibility is to have some *very* small units, perhaps only a bedroom/bath and a kitchen/eating room. These could be used by seniors, by teens needing to be close to home but also some independence, by in-laws. They would be more affordable and, with a separate deed, able to be sold by a family that no longer needed them. Most cohousing developments make a lot of noise about affordability, but few have anything like this. (Some banks get nervous loaning money on units that small. But they get nervous about a lot of things.) > Perhaps "expandable" is a more useful concept. Unfinished second floors or > basements. Small bedrooms with built in loft beds for children. Yes, although some people (like us) were forced to build out completely (i.e. finish the unfinished basement) before we moved in. Now we've got twins due in January and we have nowhere to expand. It's going to feel pretty cramped in a couple of years when they get mobile. And we've got a D, the largest unit offered. I'm all for "voluntary simplicity". It's the involuntary simplicity that gets to me ... :-) Howard Landman River Rock Cohousing Fort Collins, CO _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.communityforum.net/mailman/listinfo/cohousing-l
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Large units for people with kids Joani Blank, October 1 2001
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RE: Large units for people with kids Debbie Behrens, October 1 2001
- Re: Large units for people with kids Elizabeth Stevenson, October 1 2001
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Re: Large units for people with kids Sharon Villines, October 1 2001
- Re: Large units for people with kids Howard Landman, October 1 2001
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RE: Large units for people with kids Debbie Behrens, October 1 2001
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