RE: Sociocracy and Consensus | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: steve boylan (boylan![]() |
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Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 07:30:10 -0700 (MST) |
Rob, Regarding consensus and sociocratic consent, you wrote: > SOrry, this still did not clear it up at all. They still sound like the same > thing. Consensus could easily be defined as no objections decision making, > which is what Sociocracy is too? The definition about responding to change > in a dynamic way is exactly what consensus is also, or so it seems to my > experience. So the primary thing is that Sociocracy is creating a system of > consensus circles? Like teams, link to the board, link to the whole group? > Or does sociocracy not ever work with the whole group, only parts? I, too, had a lot of trouble when first trying to understand this distinction when I was learing about sociocracy. Here's what I've been able to puzzle out so far. The guiding principle of sociocratic consent is "no reasoned and paramount objection". As Sharon wrote, this is deliberatly imprecise: each participant and each group need to determine for themselves just what concerns are and are not "reasoned" or "paramount". But determining whether or not everyone consents is part of a larger organizational and process structure. The organization is divided into decision-making circles. Authority and responsibility are delegated by the top circle to the general circle, from the general circle to functional circles, and to additional circles as the need arises. Every circle uses the same process structure to introduce proposals, reach a mutual understanding, explore alternatives, and determine consent. The steps of this process are almost identical to the process for formal consensus. In Dr. Endenburg's writings, he contrasts sociocratic consent with a definition of consensus as "everyone must support the decision". As you pointed out, that is a very limited definition of consensus. In practice, consensus ends up being much more adaptable, and often ends up being much closer to Dr. Endenburg's ideal. Personally, I suspect that most people with experience in consensus decision making would find the sociocratic process quite familiar. - - Steve Boylan _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L
- Re: Sociocracy and Consensus, (continued)
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Re: Sociocracy and Consensus Sharon Villines, March 30 2003
- RE: Sociocracy and Consensus Rob Sandelin, March 30 2003
- Re: Sociocracy and Consensus Sharon Villines, March 30 2003
- RE: Sociocracy and Consensus Rob Sandelin, March 30 2003
- RE: Sociocracy and Consensus steve boylan, March 31 2003
- Re: Sociocracy and Consensus Sharon Villines, March 31 2003
- Re: Sociocracy and Consensus Alan Bleier, March 31 2003
- Re: Sociocracy and Consensus Sharon Villines, March 31 2003
- RE: Sociocracy and Consensus Rob Sandelin, March 31 2003
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Re: Sociocracy and Consensus Sharon Villines, March 30 2003
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