Waldorf schools and cohousing
From: Fred H Olson (fholsoncohousing.org)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 07:28:26 -0600 (MDT)
Glenn Soberman <gsoberma [at] frontiernet.net>
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I have done some research after reading Sue Pniewski's response about
Waldorf Schools.  Needless to say I was initally very concerned since my son
is in a Waldorf School and since we are Jewish.  The site that you refer to
Sue is basically a right wing fundementalist Christian organization.  They
go as far as "quoting" a Waldorf teacher as saying that all of the Waldorf
Curriculum comes from "Lucifer".   While there has been some debate and
controversy about some of Steiner's statements, the overall consensus was
that he was not racist and was strongly aganist anti-semitism.  There was an
extensive study done by the government in Holland regarding this issue which
states the same.  I think we need to be careful about assuming a website is
speaking the truth just because it is a website.  I am still interested if
anyone has any further information about cohousing communities that have
partnered with Waldorf or other schools.

Glenn Soberman

> From: Sue Pniewski <SPniewski [at] Habijax.com>
> To: "'cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org'" <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
> Subject: RE: [C-L]_joint venture between co housing and waldorf school
> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 09:27:29 -0400
> Reply-To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org
>
> I am not sure Cohousing would fit in with the Waldorf theology.  You might
> want to research the dogma very thoroughly beofer committing to any joint
> venture in which your reputation as a community may be tied to a group
such
> as that.  The following quotes are from the founder of the waldorf
schools--
>
> "You see, when we really study science and history, we must conclude that
if
> people become increasingly strong, they will also become increasingly
> stupid. If the blonds and blue-eyed people die out, the human race will
> become increasingly dense if men do not arrive at a form of intelligence
> that is independent of blondness. Blond hair actually bestows
intelligence.
> .... It is indeed true that the more the fair individuals die out the more
> will the instinctive wisdom of humans vanish."
> [Rudolf Steiner, founder of Waldorf Schools. Health and Illness: Volume I,
> p86. (1922) Spring Valley: Anthroposophic Press, 1981]
>
> "It can certainly not be denied, that today Jewry still appears as a
closed
> totality, and as such many times has intervened in the development of the
> present situation in a way that has been less than positive for Western
> cultural ideas. But Jewry as such has long since outlived itself, and has
no
> justification any more within modern life of the peoples, and that it
> nevertheless has preserved itself is a mistake of world history, whose
> consequences have been inevitable."
> [Rudolf Steiner, founder of Waldorf Schools. from his review of
"Homunculus"
> by Hammerling (1888) published in the German Weekly]
>
> Please see this website for more information-
> http://www.waldorfcritics.org/
>
> -------------------------------------
> Susan Pniewski, Esq.
> General Counsel
> Habitat for Humanity of Jacksonville
> 904.798.2712  x202
>

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