Re: Formal Consensus vs Sociocracy
From: Racheli Gai (rachelisonoracohousing.com)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 06:46:08 -0700 (PDT)
I very much agree with Tree that deciding IN THE MOMENT about a block
(without a rule/guideline to go by) is not a good idea.
All too often, at a time when someone withholds consent, there is lots of tension and even polarization. This isn't a good time to create rules, but rather to fall
on pre-determined ones (which were pondered, discussed and consensed on
previously).

Racheli.

On Apr 5, 2007, at 8:31 PM, Tree Bressen wrote:

 I think Tree's implementation is more
flexible and respectful, as it requires a serious discussion of a block and a decision IN THE MOMENT how to deal with the block, made by those who are not blocking, and the method of deciding depends on the situation. Having decided ahead of time how many blocks are necessary for a full block to me is more like voting, and doesn't promote understanding. But it is very true that having the option of evaluating a block does preclude it from happening
in most cases, and I have to say I think that's a good thing.

While i am of course pleased to be seen in a flattering light, i actually do advocate having clarity in advance about what happens if there is debate
about the validity of a block.  (So perhaps i was misinterpreted and am
less flexible than you were thinking! ;-) I think it's too much pressure
to figure it out in the moment.

I am open-minded as to what the rule should be.  I think a group can
successfully operate with the facilitator deciding (as in the Quakers), the steering committee deciding (as Annie Russell suggests), or having a # or %
approval (as i now understand CT Butler to propose).


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