Re: Formal Consensus vs Sociocracy | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: eileen mccourt (emccourt![]() |
|
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 21:27:45 -0700 (PDT) |
Hi, I am not suggesting establishing "rules" in the moment. What I meant to say is that the methods of dealing with a block or impasse in the moment are various. We can decide from several options - do we need to step back and look at the problem in a different way, or has that already been done? Should we have more time for the community to discuss, or has that been played out? If there is disagreement about whether or not enough has been done to address the concerns of the blocker, then more will be done. If there is general agreement that all reasonable efforts to meet concerns have already been attempted, with the full engagement of the blocker, then we have to decide as a group whether everyone can agree to delegate it to a smaller group, such as the board, or should we vote?. If we vote, the vote would be taken at a later time, with the opportunity for everyone to vote, and a simple majority of those who participate in the vote would be the deciding factor. This has all been discussed and agreed to by the community in advance. The bar is set high for voting, and it would take a lot of effort to get to the place that having a vote was the only way to resolve an impasse. So far, at OCC, a potential blocker has stood aside or an issue has been delegated to the board. We have not taken a formal vote as yet. I agree that, ideally, there would never be a need to vote, and that's the appeal of the sociocracy method of dealing with an impasse. Eileen McCourt Oak Creek Commons Paso Robles, CA -----Original Message----- From: Racheli Gai [mailto:racheli [at] sonoracohousing.com] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 6:44 AM To: Cohousing-L Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Formal Consensus vs Sociocracy I very much agree with Tree that deciding IN THE MOMENT about a block (without a rule/guideline to go by) is not a good idea. All too often, at a time when someone withholds consent, there is lots of tension and even polarization. This isn't a good time to create rules, but rather to fall on pre-determined ones (which were pondered, discussed and consensed on previously). Racheli. On Apr 5, 2007, at 8:31 PM, Tree Bressen wrote:
- Re: Formal Consensus vs Sociocracy, (continued)
- Re: Formal Consensus vs Sociocracy Sharon Villines, April 2 2007
- Re: Formal Consensus vs Sociocracy Brian Bartholomew, April 2 2007
- Re: Formal Consensus vs Sociocracy Tree Bressen, April 5 2007
- Re: Formal Consensus vs Sociocracy Racheli Gai, April 6 2007
- Re: Formal Consensus vs Sociocracy eileen mccourt, April 9 2007
- Re: Formal Consensus vs Sociocracy Brian Bartholomew, April 13 2007
- Re: Formal Consensus vs Sociocracy Casey Morrigan, April 13 2007
- Re: principle vs preference / Formal Consensus Ann Zabaldo, March 29 2007
- Re: Objections in Consensus [was: principle vs preference / Formal Consensus Tree Bressen, April 5 2007
Results generated by Tiger Technologies Web hosting using MHonArc.