|Working on a coCamping project ADK A.C.R.E.S. while planning for future cohousing.||<– Date –> <– Thread –>|
|From: Bob Goodrich (SoutheasternADKaol.com)|
|Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 07:02:49 -0700 (PDT)|
Excuse me if this is a little long for my first posting on the listserv. I am not used to using this form of communication, and I am trying to learn. What I am currently calling "ADK A.C.R.E.S." (Agro-forestry, Camping, Recreation, Etc., Stewardship). I am forming a coCamping project at my "Diamond in the Rough", while I learn more about how to move forward with my cohousing dreams. To start out it even be considered a "retrofit" cohousing project due to the existing infrastructure and existing sites along the 7/10th mile town road that cuts through the southern end of the 197 acre property. So as I work on my mid-life "What am I going to really do with my life?". I am leaning towards the design of an elder or senior cohousing project, not far from an open to all cohousing development. As I already have the land, even though I am just in my beginning stages of learning about cohousing, ecovillages, and the like, I would like to come up with some possibilities, that will be open to change as more members come onboard. But I would like to set some basic ground rules that I believe should serve residents well no matter where we go from here. We might not be able to afford some super insulated or high tech buildings, but planning in advance in all communities for maximum accessible building, I believe the phrase is "universal design", as well as thinking about aging in place, no matter what the age of the intended resident, as things change in our lives no matter what our age, and it makes no sense to have to move just because some fairly simple design items for accessibility were not included in the initial design. (a renovation is like a do-over, if we plan things right, simple inexpensive changes allow anyone to stay in their place, or allow other people with different needs to move in). This awesome property in the Southeastern Corner of the Adirondacks, overlooking Southern Lake Champlain on Ottenburgh Rd Clemons, NY 12819. East of the Lake George northern basin, we are on the "Quiet side of Lake George" with 197 acres between Route 22, and the Canadian Pacific railroad(formerly D&H) that runs along much of the coast of Lake Champlain in the area. (Route 22 is also known as "The Lakes to Locks Passage", an American Scenic By-way, as well as NY bike path 9. As a bonus there is a smaller parcel on the east side of the railroad crossing that includes a private boat launch "Ottenburgh's Ramp". Although small it is already shown as multi-unit residential on the tax paperwork. Who knows we might have more than one "common house" with the smaller common house being on the waterfront in the footprint of the existing small wooden cottages on the about 400 ft waterfront. Whether you are looking to go out onto the water for a short boat ride, or desire to cruise the world, you truly can get there from here. We are only a little more than 8 miles north of Whitehall's Lock 12, that can bring you to the Hudson River, and beyond to the Atlantic. There are also a couple of ways to make it to the Great Lakes, and the Great Loop that includes the Mississippi and other inter-coastal waterways. Only yesterday I learned about floating Park Models that are available. So I am now thinking of how I may incorporate them into my plan for the waterfront area. Now the song "Redneck yacht club" that talks about "Bob, he's our President" keeps going through my head. With the land already purchased. I am offering fully refundable capital buy-in's designed to simply cover the expenses above and beyond the mortgage, such as the taxes, insurance, utilities, etc. Over the next month or so this could start out with three people at $10,000 each, or ten people at $2500.00 each. Provided I had commitments, I could even break it down, as long as enough money is raised to cover some immediate important expenses. Once membership reaches a certain point a finance committee will be established to account for, and report expenses, including financing options for future capital improvements. Although initially offering funds to be fully refundable, repayment will not be instant. The finance committee would decide how/when refunds are possible, subject to being able to find new members to buy-in or the memberships ability to make payments out to someone that has decided that our project isn't for them. (the owner/also a member will guarantee payment, just not the when/how of the payment, in the even the membership is unable to repay a requested refund. Additionally some profit sharing options are also available as plans are made to compete long overdue "routine maintenance" to existing infrastructure, and sites allowing the membership more options on the usage of the property without a big review process, that will be required for new development on the property. Although finances will be separate for members, there may be some options for investment, that may result in future profit sharing. There are three drilled wells, a number of septic systems, and about 35 sites along the 7/10th mile road that cuts through the southern end of the property. might even be considered a retrofit cohousing project in the beginning. But with 197 acres, even with much of it rugged, there should be plenty of room for future development. I believe the planning chart calls this area high density residential along this road. Although my objective is to form a community that works and plays together, I am open to offering some remote sites on the property that would like to enjoy some time at a secluded retreat. There will be options for people to assist in mapping out the property, and in the process stumble on some future retreat areas where someone may bring in, or build a Tiny House, or Cottage, along with a raised bed garden, as part of our agro-forestry project. I am considering options for people that have completed a VermontTinyHouses.com workshop with Peter King, to learn basic construction skills. I plan to offer some Adirondack Tiny Houses workshops, in partnership with VermontTinyHouses.com to not only teach basic construction skills, but to offering the opportunity for a select number of people to work with me to map out the property, and select areas either along a stream, or overlooking the water. With a couple of solar panels they should be a hit, and a key part of our much needed housing for our future agro-forestry, permaculture, and/or tree farm project(s). I am looking into offering several levels of membership, so that those that are not ready to settle down, are able to have a place to enjoy what Mother Nature has to offer, that just might become a key part of their future. Other investment options being considered on top of the initial offering of refundable capital buy-in are various plans that will move forward progress to complete some overdue routine maintenance that is key to allowing more use of the sites mentioned. Some options will allow the investment to be part of a future capital buy-in, or to allow for profit sharing allowing members to use either a site, or an area, that they have adopted for certain periods, say two to five years, possibly under a 50/50 plan allowing members private usage, as well as the sites to be rented out to raise funds for more routine maintenance to be completed. One options is for the future income to be split 50/50 and paid out quarterly after a possible waiting period of about 12 months. Or you may allow your share of the funds to be used for additional routine maintenance to be completed, highly recommended. But the important thing is that option that is selected, all funds will be tracked by the finance committee, which will advise members of options available, as well as they will hear suggestions and allow voting (or other decision making options) as our membership increases, and our procedures, and plans are put down on paper and approved by the membership). As the membership increases I will consider options for future property ownership. At this moment I am considering forming some sort of land trust that keeps the property together for future generations to enjoy. But some subdivision may be required as we look into future development options. I believe that many of the aspects of a campground do have similarities to a cohousing development in that there is often a main building that provides for residents or guests to gather to eat, do laundry, and for recreation. Whether it is a common house, or a camp store with a snack bar or other food service, a recreation room, rest rooms, laundry area, and in some cases housing unit(s)attached for management and/or employees, similar to the common house guest rooms. This property does not have a circular plan at the moment. But I will be thinking about options for the future. I do have concerns that most cohousing developments seem to be very costly. But I am happy to see that many offer some units for those with a fixed income. So I will try to learn more about these options. I expect that there are incentives, and programs for those that incorporate this into their plan. There are many things for me to learn, and options to consider as we move forward. But I am prepared to learn on the run(or a crawl if necessary). Tours of the property are currently by appointment only. Mostly on Sundays. For more information Please contact Robert F Goodrich at 802-479-3441 ; SoutheasternADK [at] aol.com or PO Box 790, Stowe, VT 05672-0790. I welcome feedback, either on the listserv or privately using the contact information provided. Whether the feedback is Good, or bad it should help me learn as I move forward. A little about me. I competed my career in the Navy in May 2004. I currently work part time at the Stowe, VT Post Office. I am attempting to use my veterans education benefits to earn my accounting degree, but I am having a hard time fitting everything in. My dear wife Edith, with a "little" assistance from myself, oversees the care of our 21 year daughter Amber in her apartment in Berlin, VT. She is a cutie that is mentally about a year old, and requires a ventilator to breath properly. On most days Amber does receive the two nursing shifts that are authorized. We have to be prepared to step in, when the shifts are not covered, or during the night if she requires assistance. We are not quite sure it has made us stronger, but it has helped us count our blessings. And yes it is B.F. Goodrich when I use Bob. (I often get the health benefits of my laughter, and my dear wife reminds me how long we have been married to show that she too has sense of humor). Congratulations if you have made it this far. I have been told that I may tend to run on.
Working on a coCamping project ADK A.C.R.E.S. while planning for future cohousing. Bob Goodrich, August 2 2009
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