Cohousing-L Mailing List: Re: common house kitchen stove

[Wayne Tyson (landrest]

Well, there are reflection ovens.

WT

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From: "R Philip Dowds" <rpdowds [at] comcast.net>
To: "Cohousing-L" <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [C-L]_ common house kitchen stove


> My point was not that natural gas is necessarily superior to electric when 
> it's time to cook.  My point was that there is no such thing as clean 
> electricity.  In the US, we get our electricity from ...
>
> Coal combustion: 42%.  Coal is the worst per kWh when it comes to release 
> of greenhouse gases.  Never mind blowing the tops off mountains to get at 
> it cheaply.
> Natural gas: 25% and rising, thanks to fracking.  In creating a kWh of 
> electricity, gas releases about half as much GHGs as coal.  But fracking 
> has its own problems and risks.
> Nuclear: 19%.  We all hate nuclear, Yes?
> Hydropower, mostly from el biggo dams: 8%.  Clean and renewable, Yes? 
> Well, not totally.  David Brower, the Sierra Club's most famous executive 
> director, believed the absolute worst thing you can do to an ecosystem is 
> build a dam in it.
>
> All energy extraction, production, and transmission has consequences.  Our 
> future, if we have one, is not more electricity, but rather less energy 
> use altogether.
>
> Crudites, sashimi, ceviche and steak tartare, anyone?
>
> RPD
>
> On Mar 17, 2013, at 9:47 AM, Joanie Connors <jvcphd [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The process of mining for gas is equally vile and destructive. One gas
> > extraction method is 'fracking'. Both gas and electric use fossil
> > fuels, but when the gas runs out, I imagine there will be some other
> > ways to get power through the grid or to make our own.
>
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