Re: common house kitchen stove
From: R Philip Dowds (
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 10:08:33 -0700 (PDT)
My point was not that natural gas is necessarily superior to electric when it's 
time to cook.  My point was that there is no such thing as clean electricity.  
In the US, we get our electricity from ...

Coal combustion: 42%.  Coal is the worst per kWh when it comes to release of 
greenhouse gases.  Never mind blowing the tops off mountains to get at it 
Natural gas: 25% and rising, thanks to fracking.  In creating a kWh of 
electricity, gas releases about half as much GHGs as coal.  But fracking has 
its own problems and risks.
Nuclear: 19%.  We all hate nuclear, Yes?
Hydropower, mostly from el biggo dams: 8%.  Clean and renewable, Yes?  Well, 
not totally.  David Brower, the Sierra Club's most famous executive director, 
believed the absolute worst thing you can do to an ecosystem is build a dam in 

All energy extraction, production, and transmission has consequences.  Our 
future, if we have one, is not more electricity, but rather less energy use 

Crudites, sashimi, ceviche and steak tartare, anyone?


On Mar 17, 2013, at 9:47 AM, Joanie Connors <jvcphd [at]> wrote:

> The process of mining for gas is equally vile and destructive. One gas
> extraction method is 'fracking'. Both gas and electric use fossil
> fuels, but when the gas runs out, I imagine there will be some other
> ways to get power through the grid or to make our own.

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