Re: Bylaws, Policies & Agreements | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Sharon Villines (sharonsharonvillines.com) | |
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 06:52:58 -0800 (PST) |
On Nov 10, 2014, at 7:47 PM, R Philip Dowds <rpdowds [at] comcast.net> wrote: > enforcement is lax, memories are short, and buy-in is sometimes grudging. In > any event, our amended consensus process now allows for something else we > call ... I've discovered there are two kinds of people. Those who read the rules and think they are to be followed, and those who do what others do and are oblivious of anything written. They aren't breaking the rules; they think the operative rules are what people do, not what they write down. The best enforcement is transparency, which works wonders, and automatic enforcement. Something that automatically happens when X is done or not done. If condo payments are not received, a late fee is automatically charged. A quarterly fee is charged for any unreported workshare hours unless a prior arrangement has been made. > Guidelines. Guidelines are recommendations for “best practices” issued by a > committee. Guidelines is a very tricky word and a very tricky practice. "Guidelines" mean to the majority of people, things that can be ignored. They don't even read them. "Agreements" may be better. Then you can say "we agreed to this." But to say that, the person the agreements applied to must have been allowed to consent. Guidelines to most people is a wiggle word. It means what they want it to mean. Our lawyer defines policies as legally enforceable. Guidelines are not. For a team to write policies for themselves, is one thing. If a team can write either policies or guidelines for others to follow -- people who have no input -- the chances of adherence are small, unless the policies are so obvious they didn't even need to be written in the first place. I know a person who will work forever to make statement as non-autocratic as possible and thus neutralizes any statement. "If condo fees are not received by the 15th of the month, an affordable fee will be charged." She would change it to, "If a condo fee might not have been received by the middle of the month a late fee might be charged if necessary." And there are also instructions that some believe are guidelines. We have sign posters. Everything should have a sign. Everything! I'm an anti-sign person. I think signs are institutional and only necessary when something is not obviously dangerous -- a hot pipe where it shouldn't be. A step where it shouldn't be. Or instructions that may be helpful -- on the sanitizer that has three knobs to turn, not just the one on/off knob. If people don't follow instructions, it can be dangerous to everyone. I guess I'm saying be very clear on your definitions. And follow accepted practices or industry definitions. Our condo law has pages of definitions. Yours probably does to. Sharon ---- Sharon Villines Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC http://www.takomavillage.org
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Bylaws, Policies & Agreements Kathy Icenogle, November 10 2014
- Re: Bylaws, Policies & Agreements Ken Winter, November 10 2014
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Re: Bylaws, Policies & Agreements R Philip Dowds, November 10 2014
- Re: Bylaws, Policies & Agreements Sharon Villines, November 11 2014
- Re: Bylaws, Policies & Agreements Sharon Villines, November 11 2014
- Re: Bylaws, Policies & Agreements R Philip Dowds, November 11 2014
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Re: Bylaws, Policies & Agreements David Heimann, November 12 2014
- Re: Bylaws, Policies & Agreements Kathy Icenogle, November 12 2014
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