Re: Shared Meals | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Kathleen Lowry (kathleenlowrylpcclmft![]() |
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Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 08:12:31 -0700 (PDT) |
Johanna, I’ve noticed that in communities that have living areas surrounding a central courtyard, the communities sound more connected. Thoughts? And the courtyard isn’t too big. Anyone? Kathleen > On Mar 20, 2023, at 11:01 AM, JoAnna Allen via Cohousing-L <cohousing-l [at] > cohousing.org> wrote: > > *Hi fellow cohousers,* > This dining thread is quite interesting. I'd like to describe our system at > *Phoenix Commons *in Oakland CA. We are seven years old, have 41 units, 47 > residents at this time. Our building is 4 stories with the first floor all > common space and garage, with a dining area that seats 60, full kitchen. Our > developer and his wife are members and othearchitect and his wife just bought > the last developer owned unit. > * > **In general: * We have common meals on Mondays and Wednesdays, pot luck on > Friday. We use our Mosaic platform to sign up to be /main cook, assistant, > salad bar assist (optional), set up, 2 cleaners/. Diners sign up and are > automatically billed ($6 per full meal, $4 salad bar only). Menu is chosen > by the main cook and it is up to them how much they can provide for > vegetarians, gluten or dairy free diners, pescatarians, etc. Workers earn > task hours. Pot lucks are totally voluntary for set up and cleanup. > Attendance is between 16-26, with special events drawing over 30. A > designated member of the dining team shops for the staples for the pantry > (mostly COSTCO), others take on tasks like frig and stove cleaning. Cooks do > their own shopping and meal signup is closed 3 days before to allow time for > shopping and prep. The food is served buffet style but tables are set ahead > of time including vases of flowers (a specialty of a resident), pitchers of > water, salt & pepper, napkins, cutlery (sometimes forks only). > > *Covid impact: *We stopped these meals in March 2020, but then resumed in > July by providing takeout meals in clam shells with signees picking up > safely. We have a courtyard over which all the units overlook. Outdoor > heaters were purchased in 2020 so that residents could gather with their > meals almost daily to eat outdoors, including some who picked up their common > meals. In 2021 we resumed indoor dining, pausing whenever Covid acted up, > have been back to normal for months. If no one signs up to cook, we skip > that day but I have seen that happen only once. We have also done extra > weekend brunches (something prospective buyers could more easily attend) and > if you have a guest, you simply add to your personal tally on Mosaic. Pot > lucks have been great fun with a huge variety as a chance to test recipes or > just glean out your frig or pantry. Mosaic signup helps to balance the menu > as each contribution is listed (or TBD) and for setting the tables. > > *Attendance: > *In the earlier years attendance was high with some bringing their own meals > to just socialize. We have fallen into a pattern of steady attendance with > some residents never coming to common meals (allergies and food preferences) > or just preference for home cooked or privacy--- with some residents never > missing a meal, particularly those who work full time or several who save > themselves cooking. Many who never attend are very active in other ways so > that the common thinking that meals are the major way to build community has > fallen by the wayside. In fact one resident who never attends any meals is > the one who empties the dishwasher and keeps tables and chairs is order in > addition to the kitchen. Possibly the fact we are one building with small > units and a busy first floor keeps us running constantly into each other. 17 > committees too. > > *Who Cooks? *This is totally on a "cook if you wish" basis with meals posted > weeks in advance. We are fortunate to be large enough to have many residents > who love to cook with some being gourmets. (calamari steak recently, quail > coming up). Philip Dowd mentioned Asian stir fry. I myself am Camtonese so > prefer stir frying myself (try Malaysian mango chicken!). Rice is frequent > since we also have Vietnamese, Filipino, Japanese, residents. We are > California! I once did a Korean rice bowl meal (bibimbap) which is fun with > many rice toppings. I agree with Philiip that this serves vegetarians, > vegan, GF eaters well. For some occasions (4th of July) the grill sits just > outside the sliding doors to the patio and we have a resident who specializes > in this. > > *Finances: *We started out $5 per meal but went to $6 to cover pantry and new > supplies (paper towels, gloves, cleaning supplies, new cutting board, etc.) > We are well in the black due to a habit of being under budget so we use > dining funds at times for special events. We ask that each person do a > dining task 1X month but we have not monitored this much since we seem to > always be covered due to so many who love to cook or even clean. We do ask > incoming residents to place a deposit but I personally feel this is not > necessary since everyone covers their monthly bill, sent automatically by > email. > * > **How to promote? *My husband and I no longer do every meal, simply because > he has certain dislikes. We also like being home (PC was 80% Introverts in > 2017) as a couple with our own favorite simple meals. I also need to use up > leftovers!!! The fact that we are large enough provides good enough > attendance not just for meals but planned events. IWalso like to encourage > creativity and exploration. Some day I would like to see us produce a > Phoenix Commons cook book interlaced with stories of community life, so I am > always on the look out for "best" dishes. > > Sincerely, > JoAnna Allen > > ** >> On 3/15/2023 10:28 PM, Grace Kim wrote: >> Zev- >> We have a very simple meal program that includes meals every other night >> except for Saturdays (3x week) since we moved in 7 years ago. We took a >> break for Covid, but transitioned to 3-family “bring your own dinners” >> outdoors even through the winter. >> Community meals were sorely missed by all (grown ups and kids) and we >> brought them back last summer. >> >> We attribute our success to our simple and inclusive process. Team of 3 >> cooks/cleans for each meal. Those teams are on regular rotation that lasts >> about 4-5 months. >> >> The lead cook rotates amongst the 3 on team- and the lead plans the menu, >> shops and pay for ingredients. The only requirement is for the meal to be >> delicious and nutritious for all. This ensures that no one has to weigh the >> cost of meals vs attendance. The lead cook shops within their household >> budget/means. There are no excuses for dietary restrictions/preferences >> being reason ppl can’t attend. >> >> There is a lot of ease, people just show up if they are home or get a late >> plate if they aren’t home. Or if they had rough day get a plate to take >> home. It’s not unusual for kids to come solo if their parents are at mtgs or >> events after work or out of town. We often have guests. No one counts how >> many came, no money changes hands. We figure over the long haul everyone has >> guests and it works out in the end. >> >> A visitor from Australian cohousing who stayed with us for a week said our >> program was brilliant! And we agree. >> >> >> grace h. kim >> schemata workshop >> (sent via mobile messaging) >> 206.795.2470 >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: >> http://L.cohousing.org/info >> >> >> > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://L.cohousing.org/info > > >
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Re: Shared Meals Joyce Cheney, March 16 2023
- Re: Shared Meals Madeline Nelson, March 16 2023
- Re: Shared Meals Kathleen Lowry, March 16 2023
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Re: Shared Meals JoAnna Allen, March 19 2023
- Re: Shared Meals Kathleen Lowry, March 20 2023
- Re: Shared Meals JoAnna Allen, March 20 2023
- Re: Shared Meals Elizabeth Magill, March 20 2023
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Re: Shared Meals Joyce Cheney, March 16 2023
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