Re: Expulsion Policy | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Diana Leafe Christian (diana![]() |
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Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 06:39:38 -0800 (PST) |
Hello Arthur, I'm making these suggestions from my work as a communities researcher and consultant and author of Creating a Life Together. I'm a strong advocate for communities having a clear, thorough membership process as well as a clear policy for asking (and expecting) someone to leave the community. However, what Diana of Mosaic Commons says is true in the US. Here an office in each state, the Secretary of State, grants people various kinds of property-owning legal entities that are legal in that state (like Homeowners Associations (HOAs), Condominium Associations, and Housing Co-ops) and determines the rules for each legal entity it grants. There are strict membership rules for HOAs and Condo Associations re membership issues. Not so with Housing Co-ops, whose members can legally can choose their members—they can say Yes, No Thank You, or Not at This Time—to people who apply for membership. Housing Co-ops can also legally ask a co-op member to leave. I believe this is true for Canadian Housing Co-ops as well. So whether you can legally expel someone from Kawartha Commons depends on the rules for the legal entity you're using to co-own the property (a Strata Title Corporation, or Housing Co-op, or . . . ?). If so, I believe your first step would be to contact the provincial agency that grants and administers legal entities; the Ontario version of the Secretary of State office in a US state. Please keep in mind what the term "expulsion" might mean, and what kind of policy about this your group might want. For example, is there the legal right to compel someone to vacate their housing unit and stop living in the community? That is, they'd move out but they'd still own it and could still collect rent, and (theoretically), could still participate in meetings. Or are you seeking the legal right to compel someone to not only move out but sell their unit too? So they'd no longer have renters there or be able to participate in (and perhaps disrupt) community meetings. Please keep in mind also that there is social pressure as well as legal rights. I believe cohousers, no matter their legal entity, can ask--that is, they can just ask— someone to no longer live in the community and move out. This would not have the force of law and wouldn't be an eviction; it would be a request. Most cohousers wouldn't want to ask this though, in my experience, because they'd be afraid asking someone to move out would hurt their feelings and/or be unfair (no matter what the person may consistently do that makes others want to ask them to leave). But if the group was willing to ask the person or household to move out, it could be a way to induce someone whom the group no longer wanted there to leave. Of course the opposite is true; some people would not be moved by a "social pressure" request like this, but would continue living there no matter how often they were asked to please move away. I'm a strong believer in communities having good reasons—agreed upon and in writing—to ask someone to leave: an expulsion policy. For example: The person engages in criminal behavior and you know this. They're verbally or physically abusive to their partner or children, or verbally abusive to other community members. (Then you'd need to define what you might mean by "abusive" speech, and this is different for every group of people.) They consistently violate the community's agreed-up and written down rules, like for dues and fees, parking, quiet hours, Common House usage. ("Agreed-upon rules that are in the community's meeting minutes or policy documents; not vague beliefs about rules that are only "in the air" but not written down). Their behavior and apparent attitudes become so disruptive and hurtful that increasing numbers of other community members no longer want to go to meetings or participate in community meals when the person is there, and some are in fact scared of them. See the Communities magazine series, "Working Effectively with Especially Challenging Community Members <https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1cj1TTQfhdimkldd0YJ48Gi3J_-9ZviBx>." I've tried to embed the link here but if that didn't work, it's https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1cj1TTQfhdimkldd0YJ48Gi3J_-9ZviBx I wish you and Kawartha Commons all the best in figuring this out! Diana Leafe Christian > > >
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